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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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i'm so happy you're all here tonight

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because tonight

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i am going to talk about one of my uh

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favorite cases

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now there's a reason that we really

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haven't covered this case before

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and that is that the case originally

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occurred in 1996

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and largely it had been forgotten

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just another bookmark in the history

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of uh

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strange stories in the world of aliens

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and ufos

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for those unaware of the story

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uh it has been called

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brazil's roswell

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and with good reason

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to the culture of brazil

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this story has had just as much impact

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as the roswell story has had on american

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culture

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and the original story spawned many

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things

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uh books

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documentaries national geographic

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specials about the so-called alien

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encounter

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and more including

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a 1998 video game which we've just seen

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scenes from and don't blame me for the

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terrible cgi it was 1998 after all and

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yes i have a copy of that game and in

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fact i pulled uh that clip from

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an actual boxed copy

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of uh the virginha incident

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which was a first person shooter where

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it was your job to help the good aliens

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fight the government

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and get them back to their shuttle

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a fun first first-person shooter

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uh but sort of an obscure game that no

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one really

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played

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except for people interested in aliens

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and ufos which is why i still have a

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copy

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uh in my vast collection of what would

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now be considered abandonware old games

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no one cares about but i still thought

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interesting and let's include that piece

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it's interesting to see and to note that

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many many people made money from this

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story

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some interesting

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magazines which of course cashed in on

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story

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many many

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ufo magazine articles

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you could find about this incident

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documentaries

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it's mentioned in uh television shows it

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was even featured in a article in an

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in the wall street journal

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which we may share portions of

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uh for those that are unaware of the

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gist of the story we'll try to give you

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a general synopsis

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in 1996 in varginha

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eyewitnesses to

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both ufos and

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now most people cite these three

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saw what they believed to be an alien

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they would say they believed that they

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people have interviewed them and their

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for 26 years now has not changed they

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still believe what they saw was an

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otherworldly creature

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now there have been many of course

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artists depictions here's an interesting

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rendering of the creature that they

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believe they saw described as a creature

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with a large head small nose red glowing

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eyes and crests on its head

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quite an interesting story

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there's even been people who have made

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recreations of the

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original witnesses who saw this

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now here we see two shots of uh three

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these three original witnesses

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and again this story has been featured

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all over ufo magazines blogs

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documentaries television shows newspaper

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interestingly i mentioned the cultural

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phenomenon that this

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became in that area and here we see a

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water tower in the area in that town

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that was specifically built to look

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exactly like a flying saucer

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uh it has become something of a tourist

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uh we're going to get back to that so

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here is the uh video game cover

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for the uh clip that we showed to begin

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the tonight's broadcast

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and this is the spanish version and

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don't ask me why perhaps just because

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ocd when it comes to collecting

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weird things i like but i have both the

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spanish version of this game

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and the english version as well

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little known game uh vga wow

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so a lot of people have made money out

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of this story

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uh and we'll get back to that as well

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stop my screen here one moment

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we will get back to that

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multiple witnesses uh saw

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later people described strange creatures

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being taken to a local hospital

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extremely interesting now if you were to

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we'll pull up a different article oh

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one second friends please bear with me

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uh even kevin randall well-known roswell

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researcher was interested in this event

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but he called it an event that is

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largely without evidence

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um and i'm not sure how i feel about

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that because there was an awful lot of

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eyewitnesses to this event

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the story has survived

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the brazilian government has officially

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denied any claims of being involved in

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the capture

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of extraterrestrial biological entities

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and more all in the area and people

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aliens that people had witnessed earlier

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denies that they were involved in any

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capture of extraterrestrial biological

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but some theorists according to this

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article claim otherwise accusing the

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government of a cover-up

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for some the lack of reliable sources is

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evidence against its actuality the

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individuals are frequently featured and

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this is what you will find if you dig

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who are claiming that they spoke with a

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government official on the condition of

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that's essentially trust me dude i

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it gets interesting ufo investigator

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kevin randle writes that the case is as

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complicated as any other in the ufo

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of physical evidence supporting the case

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part of me according to media reports

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the creature was first cited by three

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women women ranging from 14 to 21 years

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the liqueria fatima silva and their

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they allegedly saw the creature in the

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meters five feet tall with a large head

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and very thin body with v-shaped

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feet brown skin and large red eyes it

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girls assumed it was injured or sick

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the silva sisters said they fled and

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the woman did not believe them and uh

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until she went to the area and had

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allegedly seen the creature and smelled

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a strong ammonia-like odor and found

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nothing but its footsteps and a dog

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sniffing the place

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after relating the tale to family and

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friends the rumors began to spread

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throughout the city regarding ufo

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sightings and alien creatures being

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abducted by military forces

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two days later another creature was

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allegedly found lying along the road

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three military trucks were supposedly

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sent to retrieve it and again this is

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orolina and eureka de frayates owners of

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a farm in the town reportedly saw ufo

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hovering over their cattle

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oralina was attracted by the sudden

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agitation in her animals and spotted the

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flying object after she went

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to check what was disturbing them the

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object supposedly hovered over the field

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for 40 minutes

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in regard to the wasteland creature an

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official inquiry led by brazilian

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military authorities revealed in 2010

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that the silver sisters had actually

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come across a homeless mentally unstable

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covered in mud and that the military

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trucks were operating in their normal

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schedule that night so we get an

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official denial from the brazilian

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and a some would say ridiculous

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explanation for what actually occurred

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now this is where it gets

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a little bit interesting you bring in

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the swamp gas and uh

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i'm not sure how i feel about this

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explanation

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but here we see

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a drawing of what the witnesses

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described and the government's

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explanation was that no no it was not an

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alien

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it was a well-known man in the area

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nicknamed marjino

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and the reason madhino had the nickname

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madhino is because

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he

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routinely would cover himself in mud

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and

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crawl around apparently he was a

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some would say learning disabled man a

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man of very low iq

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sort of uh

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you know mentally disturbed

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and well known uh too many in the local

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community

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so the government

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brings forth this explanation that what

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these people saw the three girls saw

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in this industrial area was not an alien

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or

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you know extraterrestrial biological

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entity but a

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man covered in mud now i suppose that

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would explain the brown skin that they

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thought the creature had that

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and also the fact that the creator was

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cowering and crouching

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and fearful

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but the problem is that separate

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witnesses in other areas of the city

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that i don't believe this might he know

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based on my research and looking through

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google maps

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totally on the other end of the city you

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know uh people saw a similar creature

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described a very similar creature and

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the government the brazilian government

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that is has never quite explained

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how other people across

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you know the city were able to see

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similar creatures one man witnessed a

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similar creature after he opened his

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bathroom window and looked out he saw a

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creature

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crouching outside of his home

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that looked strikingly similar and an

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amazingly similar description ex and

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it appears to be the same type of

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creature was witnessed by multiple

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people throughout the city

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and as i said

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the the government also explained away

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there was many many witnesses to all

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this military activity military trucks

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police trucks

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fire trucks all over the area that these

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three girls had their original sighting

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of the so-called creature

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the government explained this away

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stating that

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the trucks were on normal schedule which

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doesn't make any sense because you know

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i don't know that

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different arms of the military

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local firefighters and local police in

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an area coordinate and all congregate

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together around one area on a schedule

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this has never made any sense to me

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now the main one of the main proponents

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of this story has been well known

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documentary filmmaker

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james fox

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and i am a bit cautious about mr fox

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after all

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he has literally made millions of

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dollars selling documentaries about

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aliens

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and i'm not seeing his latest

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documentary

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some of his documentaries i think

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including the phenomenon are just

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repeating talking points that are

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already in the media

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others opinions may vary but

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at the very least james fox has more of

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an air of credibility about his work and

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his research and his efforts

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than many

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uh what i would call ufo profiteers

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i'm not sure that he's more credible

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than anyone else however

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uh he has that appearance or

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you know people perceive him to be much

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more credible than let's say the stephen

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griers or the david wilcox or you know

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some of the real grifters out there just

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totally selling garbage

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he does appear to me to be more

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fact-based so james fox from the very

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beginning of this story has been

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extremely interested and at his own

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personal cost and expense has researched

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the case going so far as to go to brazil

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interview original witnesses of the case

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track down people who saw something and

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get them on the record to give

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interviews

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now the reason we are

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bringing this story back and covering it

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00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:53,520
today is because recently

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james fox sort of made waves in this in

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the conspiracy land ufo community

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whatever you want to call it

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because james fox is now claiming that

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he has located

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video

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evidence of these creatures and images

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and this of course leads me to wonder

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is this another case of someone over

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promising and under delivering

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is he over promising because

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you know if you uh it's important to

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note that when he made these statements

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that he has located images and video

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of these alien creatures

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many of the uh let's just call them

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believers

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disclosure and ufos are here went nuts

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00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:51,280
all saying james fox is going to bring

430
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:52,080
us

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the smoking gun evidence of alien

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visitation on earth we're finally gonna

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get it

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and

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you know if this was my first go around

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this type of story my first time at this

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rodeo

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i may

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simply

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believe that too

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because up until now

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james fox's work has been

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pretty credible

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he does not or hasn't really over hyped

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or and or or under delivered

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his

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documentaries in my experience so far

448
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have been

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and his investigations and his

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interviews with witnesses have been very

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one of the other things that i can tell

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you about james fox that i like is that

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he

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will tell you i don't know

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he will admit when something is beyond

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the scope of his knowledge

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00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,320
many of these ufo gurus will not do that

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and in fact they will instead

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00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,559
fill in the blanks whatever questions

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00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,480
you have they're able to answer because

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00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,240
they're on the inside of this thing and

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they know the truth about those aliens

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00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,120
james fox seems to be a bit more

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measured and usually

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usually

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in my observation of him over the years

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he has been very measured

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and very

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i would say cautious and and sort of

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00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,120
manages people's expectations

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there's only so much information that he

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00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:20,559
has

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and generally and i'm saying generally

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he doesn't over hype now

475
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,720
we have to take a moment to realize that

476
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you're talking about a very sensational

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topic it's aliens it's ufos

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00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:35,679
so certainly when you get involved with

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a film distribution company there's some

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00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:42,159
hype to sell the project and uh but

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you can look at his promos to all of his

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films

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so far in my observation he has not over

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promised and under-delivered

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it should be noted that uh i know

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00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:57,760
everybody keeps asking me to watch his

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00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,039
aerial phenomenon film and i promise you

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00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,840
i'm doing it it's just been a crazy few

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months with my children at home for

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summer vacation and other things going

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on and cabin building stuff and it's

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summertime

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i'm gonna be watching that film and i'm

494
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asking for spooky and maybe a few other

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00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,679
people i'm going to spring for it for us

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00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,520
all to watch it and then we're going to

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00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:21,200
give a review of it so that one i

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00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,400
haven't seen

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00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,640
but i hear it's very good and very fact

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based and very convincing

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um so

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while we did cover ross colt parts big

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bluff

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00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,159
uh you may check my previous videos here

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recently australian

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i don't even want to call him a

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journalist

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australian uh sensational

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garbage peddler ross colthardt

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has uh

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severely over promised and under

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delivered because what ross colthardt

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just did

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is to say

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we have conclusive proof of alien

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technology this man confirms it all and

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then they cut to a scene of michio kaku

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which to most people would be an

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indication that he has conclusive

520
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,600
evidence of alien technology and a

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well-known well-respected

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00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,760
scientist

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michio kaku is going to confirm for us

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that that alien technology is its

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00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,720
conclusive proof of alien technology

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then you get to his actual work this

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00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,279
ross colthard garbage peddler

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and they don't have anything they don't

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have any proof and in fact

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they didn't even begin

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any analysis on the so-called evidence

532
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that they already said was conclusive

533
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proof of alien technology

534
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you know up until last week the person

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doing the

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00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,440
so-called analysis of the claimed alien

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00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:48,960
technology which by the way is a

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50-pound metal ball so apparently aliens

539
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,520
make you know

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metal balls exact to our measurements

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00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:58,240
here on earth take from that what you

542
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,679
will but the point is that ross

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00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,360
coulthard

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00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,760
was a joke with over promising and over

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delivering and some of you may be aware

546
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,440
that i have talked about this time and

547
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,360
time and time again

548
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,840
cosmic con artists over promise and

549
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,360
under deliver

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00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,520
you may recall that a certain idiot show

551
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,200
host was telling everybody how great

552
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,520
this stephen greer documentary was for

553
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,080
months maybe even a year leading up to

554
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:26,159
it you know that joke with third phase

555
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,360
of fake

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00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,159
and what we get with that documentary is

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00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,480
a retelling of

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00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,399
hold on let me stop that

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00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:36,720
what we got with that documentary is

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00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,600
largely a repeat of stephen grier's

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00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:42,000
three previous documentaries and the

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00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,679
only new information that we got was

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00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,760
laughable here's one piece of new

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00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,679
information that

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00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,520
dr stephen greer went on a secret

566
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,159
mission with zz tops

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00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,960
billy gibbons and there they saw alien

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00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,600
technology that could regrow limbs

569
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:59,679
you know repair people's broken backs

570
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,480
and more that's right dr stephen greer

571
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,720
went on a secret mission to a secret

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00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,640
underground base where they were housing

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00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,799
alien metal medical technology that

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00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:11,039
could regrow limbs and let's see what

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00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,840
else

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00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,799
uh

577
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,039
an entire company that was developing

578
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:16,960
energy technologies i believe it was in

579
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,080
michigan the entire company got murdered

580
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,480
and we fact checked that one we we try

581
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:24,080
to check the fact check the billy

582
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,600
gibbons thing by the way i talked to his

583
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,000
publicist and his booking manager tour

584
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,080
manager all of which promised me that

585
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,919
billy gibbons of zz top would look at

586
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,919
the clip i sent them and tell me if he

587
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,840
really went on a secret mission

588
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,240
crickets uh but i'm gonna follow up with

589
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,399
them and see if they if we still can't

590
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,480
get a statement to fact check that and

591
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,600
the number two story a whole company got

592
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,760
murdered now that one we can fact check

593
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,679
we find no newspaper articles of the

594
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:51,520
whole company getting murdered we find

595
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,960
no state police records no fbi records

596
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,720
apparently an entire company got

597
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,960
murdered and nobody in the state that it

598
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,919
happened

599
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,919
in the authorities knows anything about

600
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,880
it it never happened it was garbage but

601
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,200
when you when we discussed this premise

602
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,760
i have of the fact that all cosmic con

603
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,000
artists they have to over promise and

604
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:13,679
under deliver

605
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,039
you have to hype it up they all do it so

606
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:18,960
in the case of the stephen greer latest

607
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,919
documentary it was severely over hyped

608
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:22,720
and

609
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,440
it was largely garbage they over hyped

610
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:28,320
it they over promised

611
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,240
it's going to be amazing and then

612
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,720
nothing you get nothing

613
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,559
nothing like they promised

614
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,919
we have seen

615
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,399
time and time again people over promise

616
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,960
and under deliver one may recall jaime

617
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,200
moussan and the roswell slides oh this

618
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,799
is definite this is a hundred percent

619
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,120
proof of that roswell really happened

620
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:48,960
here's a picture of the alien here's a

621
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:51,840
slide turned out to be bogus over

622
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:54,799
promise under deliver but here is the

623
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,760
important part of the cosmic con shuffle

624
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:00,080
first you over promise then you collect

625
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,360
all the money

626
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,600
then you under deliver and by the way

627
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,000
that ross coulthard example

628
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,240
uh therein he's i think he's into the

629
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,559
hundreds of thousands of views with that

630
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:12,720
click bait garbage where he promised

631
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:15,279
that he had definitive proof of

632
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,240
uh excuse me conclusive proof of alien

633
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,399
technology confirmed by this man and

634
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,799
then they show michiokaku he's already

635
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:25,279
made all of his money

636
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,159
and now after the money is made

637
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,320
oh the big let down that's another part

638
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,720
of the cosmic con shuffle

639
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,640
there's the over promising

640
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:37,279
the under delivering and then

641
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,039
the inevitable big letdown that the

642
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,960
audience experiences

643
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,080
but

644
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,880
to the cosmic con they don't care they

645
00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:47,200
over promise they overhype they over

646
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,840
sensationalize and then they under

647
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,600
deliver

648
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,760
and then the audience is let down but by

649
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,399
the time the audience gets wise to what

650
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,559
happened they've already made most of

651
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,120
the money and they shuffle off

652
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,279
and they come up with new fake stories

653
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,039
that's what ross culpard is doing right

654
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,200
now ross colthardt is trying to figure

655
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:10,240
out how do i weasel out of

656
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,799
literally lying through my teeth and

657
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,440
then blaming the the company that he

658
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:17,039
works for for why it was over

659
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:18,799
sensationalized

660
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:21,200
he is literally doing the cosmic on

661
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,399
shuffle he's going to go away for a

662
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,320
little while enjoy all that money he

663
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640
made lying to everyone right and i don't

664
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,799
care what anybody says and by the way

665
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:31,440
all you true believer idiots wanna uh

666
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,039
you know

667
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:35,360
you guys wanna defend him and blame the

668
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,559
company it was his voice on the promo it

669
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,640
was his image he could have threatened

670
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:42,880
to quit if they didn't pull that promo

671
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,519
that was too sensational he didn't do it

672
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:48,000
he took that money and he ran with that

673
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:48,960
money

674
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,640
because that's what the cosmic con does

675
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,559
now back to james fox

676
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,480
james fox

677
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,600
is in my

678
00:32:02,950 --> 00:31:59,360
it's kind of like

679
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,960
good slash gray he's my white slash gray

680
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,200
he's a very light shade of gray for me i

681
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,159
would like to believe james fox

682
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:10,480
um i have never had a conversation with

683
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,679
him but based on tonight's story i am

684
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,279
gonna reach out to him and ask him for

685
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,080
an interview uh and that's uh something

686
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,480
that's been on my list of of people

687
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:21,840
honestly he's one of the people that's

688
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,919
been on my list since the very beginning

689
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,360
didn't have a real

690
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:27,760
you know i know he was very busy with uh

691
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:30,000
promoting his films by the way his films

692
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:30,799
get

693
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:33,440
millions and millions and millions of

694
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,399
views

695
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:37,039
and we're kind of a small fish in a in a

696
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,480
pond here so

697
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,640
i didn't feel it was appropriate to go

698
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,200
can i have an hour of your time but i'm

699
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,440
gonna reach out and ask anyway

700
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,519
back to my point i i

701
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,399
i could be wrong and and uh i freely

702
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:52,399
admit that but it always seemed to me

703
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:53,200
that

704
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:55,840
i could not instantly put james fox into

705
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:57,919
the cosmic con category

706
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,880
because i don't i have not seen him over

707
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,360
promise and under deliver i have not

708
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:06,480
seen him over hype i have not seen him

709
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,279
lie

710
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:09,760
to the audience i have not seen him do

711
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,200
anything

712
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,799
that i would consider

713
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:15,360
unethical or immoral or

714
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,880
certainly not illegal like a lot of

715
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:18,399
these cosmic con artists you know a lot

716
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,760
of these cosmic con artists are all

717
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,440
running charities

718
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:23,279
but then they never do charitable work

719
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,640
you know after they collect half a

720
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,360
million dollars or in david wilcox case

721
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:28,880
i don't know what did he collect like

722
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,679
150 000

723
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,760
i'm sorry on the numbers it's probably

724
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,919
that's probably not accurate i can get

725
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,600
back to you with what david wilcox

726
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,840
actual charity but i don't see james fox

727
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,360
doing those things

728
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,279
and i would like to still count him as

729
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,720
one of the good guys

730
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,399
that's the easiest way to say it i would

731
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,880
really like to count james fox still as

732
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:50,640
one of the good guys

733
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,360
i have followed this story for a a long

734
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,320
time

735
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:57,440
and in fact um i remember the original

736
00:34:03,350 --> 00:33:59,200
national geographic

737
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,360
uh story on this alien incident and i

738
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,279
thought uh we're gonna put our fair use

739
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:06,799
banner up here

740
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,790
you know seeing james fox

741
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,399
in this original coverage and then

742
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,399
seeing him in a recent interview

743
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,159
i was kind of reminded that yeah you

744
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,480
know time passes right

745
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,560
and you have to give james fox a little

746
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,639
bit of credit because he has been

747
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:27,280
covering this story since it started

748
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,320
you know

749
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,480
so such a long time and apparently

750
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,159
recently

751
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,280
uh he is working on this story again and

752
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,000
he will be doing a new documentary

753
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:39,919
on this

754
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:42,639
incident and by the way uh some of the

755
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,159
true believers are attacking me on

756
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:45,760
twitter saying why don't you wait till

757
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,760
he's done the documentary to we're

758
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,760
talking about the incident not his

759
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:51,919
documentary but he's the most he's the

760
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,079
person most relevant to this story right

761
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,879
now because apparently

762
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,480
he's interviewing new witnesses

763
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:00,480
including somebody that drove one of the

764
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,240
creatures to the hospital oh by the way

765
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:06,960
just like roswell in this case we get a

766
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,760
conflation of many different events and

767
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,760
the government's explanation

768
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:14,079
is a bunch of ridiculous things so one

769
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,599
explanation for the creature is there's

770
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,599
a mentally disabled man who crouches

771
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,359
down on the ground and covers himself in

772
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,680
mud and rolls around in mud

773
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,280
and also

774
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,200
there were witnesses that claimed they

775
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,839
saw aliens and alien bodies being

776
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,320
brought into the hospital that was

777
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,800
explained away as a

778
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:35,440
family of midgets i'm not kidding this

779
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:36,800
is what the government really said the

780
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,040
brazilian government said those weren't

781
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,440
aliens that people saw in that hospital

782
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,400
it was a [\h__\h] couple a man and a woman

783
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,320
who were having a baby

784
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,520
that's what people saw and i'm sorry but

785
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,040
i have a hard time believing that

786
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,800
somebody would mistake and by the way

787
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,480
that's probably a

788
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,400
politically incorrect term but that's

789
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,000
the term that the brazilian government

790
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,160
used they called the midge it's not me

791
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,400
don't send me any hate mail a dwarf a

792
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,560
little person whatever you whatever

793
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,960
their preferred uh you know

794
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,720
descriptor is

795
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,040
so the brazilian government says those

796
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:12,880
people didn't see aliens coming into

797
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,160
that hospital they saw

798
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,560
a couple that were little people that

799
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,640
were there having a baby

800
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:22,720
and this makes no sense especially if

801
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,520
what james fox is telling us is true

802
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,520
in that he has been on the record

803
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,200
witness who drove

804
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,640
one of the aliens to the hospital

805
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,400
that's some interesting and incredible

806
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:36,960
new evidence if true

807
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:38,839
but we get back to

808
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:41,839
this other part of the story

809
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:43,040
and that is

810
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:45,680
is james fox right now over promising

811
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:48,480
and under delivering remember recently

812
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,069
located videos and images of these

813
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,800
aliens but i i noticed the wording of

814
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:01,119
this is very important he didn't say i

815
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:02,480
have

816
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,119
located videos

817
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,359
located images

818
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,839
and this is um kind of problematic

819
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,359
because the true believers are running

820
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,440
around saying james fox has got videos

821
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:19,359
of the aliens and he's going to prove it

822
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,640
all

823
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,359
i i think we have to be very measured

824
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,359
and we have to be very we have to manage

825
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,320
our expectations here he didn't say

826
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:30,400
that he has

827
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:34,079
they're going to be in his documentary

828
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,800
he said he has located them

829
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:39,520
which could mean something as simple

830
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:42,880
and unremarkable as someone has told him

831
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:45,359
they have footage someone has told him

832
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,000
they have images and in full disclosure

833
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,160
when i saw this statement from him i was

834
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,640
cautious for him because

835
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,880
i have had at least three separate

836
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,440
occasions where somebody promised me

837
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,000
similar smoking gun evidence and proof

838
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:03,359
and of course it never materialized it

839
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:04,480
never

840
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,200
gun proof of the aliens that people

841
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,119
contacted me and were promising me that

842
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,440
they had and in one case i went to great

843
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,599
lengths to get that so-called proof and

844
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,359
that's a whole nother story of a cloak

845
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,280
and dagger bunch of nonsense that i

846
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,720
think somebody was just playing games

847
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,839
with me

848
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,440
because what i ended up getting is a

849
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,599
vanilla folder full of

850
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,320
documents that were freely available

851
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:29,920
on the internet you know things like the

852
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:31,760
majestic documents or the cirque bow

853
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,400
documents all jammed into a big envelope

854
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,400
that's what i got after months of

855
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:38,240
somebody toying with me claiming they

856
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,920
had smoking gun proof of alien

857
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,839
visitation on earth

858
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,800
so

859
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,200
to those you know

860
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,680
running the the cheerleader squad for

861
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,680
james foxco and he's gonna bring us you

862
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,119
know please

863
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,119
manage your expectations

864
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:55,119
language is important and again he did

865
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,040
not say he had

866
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,240
proof of these aliens or footage or

867
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:03,359
video or images he said he had located

868
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,560
it

869
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,160
and i found another interview which

870
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:07,839
we'll be sharing tonight but first i

871
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,000
thought it most important

872
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,960
if we show you uh you know just how long

873
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,800
james fox has been

874
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,280
obsessed by this story and you know i

875
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,119
believe that obsession is genuine for

876
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:22,320
him and he truly cares about this story

877
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,240
now in so far as his recent claims

878
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,160
i'm going to remain cautiously

879
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,000
optimistic and manage my own

880
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,920
expectations i'm not expecting them to

881
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,320
drop videos of real aliens and pictures

882
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,400
of these real aliens saying see [\h__\h]

883
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,560
there's the proof i'm not expecting for

884
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:39,760
that to happen

885
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:42,640
but i'm hopeful it will oh that would be

886
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,000
awesome wouldn't it it would be awesome

887
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:48,720
now of course even having video or

888
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:51,359
images that somebody claims to be of

889
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,960
these alien creatures

890
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,960
would not really constitute proof would

891
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:57,280
it because then the debating would start

892
00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:00,160
is this fake is it a puppet is it cgi is

893
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:01,680
it some creature somebody made in

894
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,599
hollywood to sell to uh james fox and by

895
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,640
the way

896
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,640
i believe he may be setting himself up

897
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:10,319
for disappointment because in this

898
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,599
interview we're going to share tonight

899
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,920
he literally mentions

900
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:16,079
essentially that he

901
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,680
something about paying a hundred

902
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:19,440
thousand dollars for the footage in the

903
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:20,720
images

904
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,480
now some people would say would he

905
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,880
really pay that much for it yeah yeah

906
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:27,119
because he would make a million dollars

907
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,680
at least a few million probably on a

908
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,680
documentary featuring that footage and

909
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:33,040
those images

910
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:35,119
this is such a well-known story

911
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:36,000
uh

912
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,839
i believe he would make millions so

913
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,920
paying a hundred thousand dollars to be

914
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,760
able to use that evidence

915
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,680
seems like a good deal but what we're

916
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:45,920
going to do right now is we are going to

917
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,560
uh cite fair use this is a

918
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,079
transformative work and i'm trying to

919
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:52,960
educate the public about this varjinha

920
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,520
alien ufo incident and specifically

921
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,319
james fox's involvement in it since the

922
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:00,880
very beginning of this story

923
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:01,760
so

924
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,640
i rarely just play a clip and don't talk

925
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,400
over it but this is just a few minute

926
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,240
clip and i thought it was an important

927
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,720
retelling of the original witnesses and

928
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,200
also features james fox

929
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,720
so we're going to cite fair use this is

930
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,480
a transformative work this is covered

931
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,880
under fair use and allowable by law when

932
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,880
the clip concludes we'll be continuing

933
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,200
our discussion and i will be using that

934
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,000
clip to educate everybody watching about

935
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,520
the varginha alien and ufo incident this

936
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,240
is certainly covered under fair use so

937
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,960
let's check some of james fox's let's

938
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:36,960
check this out this is some of james

939
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:40,720
fox's original coverage of this incident

940
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,950
purely by chance i've managed to track

941
00:42:04,390 --> 00:41:55,680
down three primary witnesses who

942
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,550
i'd like to start off by saying but this

943
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:08,880
is like you know um the holy grail of

944
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,440
witnesses for me so i am like so happy

945
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:12,800
to be here right now

946
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:15,200
um can you describe to us what happened

947
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,109
so it was around three o'clock in the

948
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,359
afternoon

949
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:31,599
this was not the usual way that it would

950
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:33,060
take to go back home

951
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,589
she saw a little creature that was

952
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,560
really sweating

953
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:46,720
there was like a little person but with

954
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,160
no hair whatsoever red eyes and three

955
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,760
horns

956
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:53,839
she pointed to the other girls and

957
00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:03,109
[Music]

958
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,270
if they all had the opportunity to speak

959
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:07,599
to the world about their experience what

960
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:10,400
would they like the world to know

961
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,309
they said it wasn't a good experience at

962
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:20,079
all if they could choose they wouldn't

963
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,680
go through it again

964
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,640
and

965
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,960
only people who have been through what

966
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,280
they have been through can tell what

967
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:28,800
how they felt and

968
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:31,839
how that it all affected their lives

969
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,470
[Applause]

970
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,630
affected everything like from

971
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,440
friendships to work to school people

972
00:44:04,309 --> 00:43:51,760
getting away from them people

973
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,390
she just says that she hopes that one

974
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,359
day the whole thing will come clear and

975
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,079
she will you know her word will be taken

976
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:14,160
seriously and they'll know that she was

977
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:20,150
well i'm

978
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,839
i'm

979
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,960
um uh

980
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,960
so grateful to have had this opportunity

981
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:25,920
to meet

982
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,480
you guys this is why i do what i do and

983
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:30,240
i want to thank you from

984
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,309
so

985
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,400
james fox tracks down the original

986
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,240
witnesses gets

987
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,319
on the record on camera interviews with

988
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:50,400
them and it's interesting to note that

989
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:53,200
their stories have not changed in 26

990
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:54,160
years

991
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,040
um

992
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,240
now back to this explanation of matthino

993
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:00,800
this mentally disabled man who would

994
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:03,920
roll around in mud i i just i i that's

995
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,560
always bothered me

996
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,319
would these girls not know the

997
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,000
difference between an alien or

998
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,079
demon-like creature

999
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,720
and uh a mentally disabled man covered

1000
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:16,720
in mud

1001
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,240
you know i don't know some of them were

1002
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:20,079
young at the time

1003
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,119
um

1004
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,839
it was sort of a barren area maybe a

1005
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,359
little spooky

1006
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,760
but i don't buy that explanation i never

1007
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,800
have

1008
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,079
um

1009
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,079
and the coupled with the fact that

1010
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,160
multiple witnesses in other areas the

1011
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,680
city saw these

1012
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:36,800
same

1013
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,680
one saw a creature exactly like the one

1014
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,839
that they witnessed laying in the middle

1015
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,520
of the street

1016
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:47,280
several days later

1017
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:48,720
very

1018
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,760
hard to explain away these events

1019
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:53,599
it's also interesting to note that there

1020
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,280
was ufo sightings in the area around the

1021
00:46:02,550 --> 00:46:00,480
exact same day and time

1022
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,560
that of course has led many people to

1023
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,720
believe that these things were some sort

1024
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:06,880
of aliens whether the

1025
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,800
ship crash landed or what happened

1026
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,960
i'm sure that i've heard one researcher

1027
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,280
claim although with anonymous sources

1028
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:17,520
that these were some sort of alien

1029
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,280
genetic experiment they weren't the

1030
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,760
let's say smart aliens they were like a

1031
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,839
servitor race of

1032
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,160
i don't know slaves but of course this

1033
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,000
is all speculation we get a lot of

1034
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,240
speculation with this story as well as

1035
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,079
many others

1036
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,119
so i will put my fair use banner back up

1037
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,119
i should have left it up i forgot and

1038
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,280
we're gonna share a recent interview

1039
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,880
with james fox again this is a

1040
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,960
transformative work we're educating the

1041
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:47,599
public and uh

1042
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:53,190
where did i put it oh here we go

1043
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:56,000
now here's where i do have a problem

1044
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,760
because

1045
00:47:03,190 --> 00:46:59,920
from the podcast we're going to be

1046
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:03,200
sharing tonight you know

1047
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,920
i know it's just common but there is a

1048
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,160
real tendency for people to just click

1049
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:10,640
bait and sensationalize things even this

1050
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,400
podcast interview of james fox and again

1051
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,000
he's the interviewee he had nothing to

1052
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:18,640
do with this title but it's titled proof

1053
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
the military captured a live alien in

1054
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:23,119
brazil

1055
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,760
and you know quite honestly except for

1056
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:27,760
the witness testimony i don't know what

1057
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,079
they mean by proof we don't have the

1058
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,480
videos we don't have

1059
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:35,359
the images that james fox has recently

1060
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,400
mentioned

1061
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,480
we have stories

1062
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,559
and stories are great and i understand

1063
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,960
that witness testimony especially if

1064
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,920
they're credible witnesses it has value

1065
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,680
but i always want a little more than

1066
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,520
that i'd like to have corroborating

1067
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:52,079
evidence right

1068
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,280
like pictures video

1069
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,040
ideally bodies

1070
00:48:04,230 --> 00:47:59,920
biological samples that can be tested

1071
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:04,240
to prove that it's not human or animal

1072
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:05,599
other people have

1073
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,960
from the skeptical inquirer i think have

1074
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,119
uh excuse me

1075
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,760
from the skeptic society have

1076
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,920
mentioned that this creature was a

1077
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,839
deformed dog

1078
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:19,520
and i'm not sure if that's

1079
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,480
an even

1080
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:22,559
more ridiculous explanation it could be

1081
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:25,440
a deformed dog with mange

1082
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,240
you know it appears to me that

1083
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:31,440
sometimes people witness strange things

1084
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,400
and

1085
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:34,720
in an effort to explain them away the

1086
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,839
explanation is more ridiculous than the

1087
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,440
original story of course the original

1088
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,119
story is hey

1089
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:44,880
these were aliens or some kind of demon

1090
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:47,599
and the ridiculousness of it's a

1091
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:51,040
disabled man covered in mud or it's uh

1092
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,240
you know a deformed dog somehow

1093
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,400
i'm just not buying that so we're going

1094
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,839
to cite fair use we're going to be

1095
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:00,000
sharing this recent interview

1096
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:04,640
uh on concrete podcast with james fox

1097
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:07,599
um and here he gives some updated and

1098
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:09,760
new information about the case and what

1099
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:12,319
he's been up to recently so let's get

1100
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,440
into it friends and by the way i we will

1101
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:17,119
we're only going to share a short

1102
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,800
portion of this video and i don't have

1103
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,040
time for comments and questions from the

1104
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,520
live chat as well tonight so uh just

1105
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,520
bear with me guys

1106
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:27,119
you know yeah i believe we're not alone

1107
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,480
in the universe and it's being covered

1108
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:29,760
up from us but i still got to take my

1109
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:32,559
garbage out imagine also imagine the

1110
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,599
kind of

1111
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,839
power you must feel holding on to that

1112
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:37,359
information that would

1113
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,720
you're holding something that could

1114
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:40,000
potentially

1115
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,119
alter humankind yes alter the mindset of

1116
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:45,839
every every one of our species on earth

1117
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,640
yeah

1118
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,000
and that could probably change the

1119
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,160
trajectory of where we go how we evolve

1120
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,920
et cetera like if you hold on to that

1121
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,920
information how does that affect your

1122
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:55,119
ego

1123
00:50:07,270 --> 00:49:56,079
i

1124
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,280
who

1125
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,430
a bean

1126
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,599
called a creature or bean or they called

1127
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,359
it kind of e.t

1128
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,359
on that ufo crash case in virginia

1129
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:20,240
brazil in 1996

1130
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:24,950
you

1131
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,440
have a level of confirmation that only a

1132
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,920
handful of people on this planet have

1133
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,000
what does that feel like

1134
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,720
because i wanted to know

1135
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:36,800
you know this guy was serious as a heart

1136
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,680
attack and he was not out there trying

1137
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,720
to

1138
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,800
get an interview with anybody we were

1139
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,440
chased him down for years

1140
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,800
it was like all the money in the world

1141
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,559
and never coming forward and the stars

1142
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,160
lined up and we had like a

1143
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:52,079
36 hour window where we managed to get

1144
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,440
this guy on camera but i asked him that

1145
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,800
question

1146
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:57,119
you have a level of confirmation

1147
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:59,119
you know definitively you drove this

1148
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,160
thing around

1149
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,480
what does that feel like

1150
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,400
and he

1151
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:05,920
he responded like it was more of a

1152
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,640
burden than anything else

1153
00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:10,000
that has actually kind of ruined his

1154
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:11,359
life

1155
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,240
yeah it's interesting now that

1156
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,000
in addition to the three female

1157
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:18,319
witnesses that saw one of the alien

1158
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,720
creatures and a man who claimed that he

1159
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,920
saw the same type of alien creature out

1160
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,240
of his bathroom window we also have

1161
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,880
witnesses that saw a similar creature

1162
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,440
laying in the middle of a road

1163
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:33,839
now we have confirmation from james fox

1164
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:36,400
that in his upcoming documentary he has

1165
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:39,440
an on the record on camera interview

1166
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,599
with someone uh who is

1167
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,559
telling a pretty amazing story about

1168
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,880
driving one of the creatures and i'm

1169
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:51,520
assuming or i believe it is that this

1170
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,040
person drove

1171
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,200
one of the alien creatures to the local

1172
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,119
hospital somehow

1173
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,960
and one thing i do know about james fox

1174
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,800
is he's not just taking anybody's word

1175
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,640
for it i'm sure that he vetted that

1176
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:04,319
person and made sure that he was in a

1177
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,599
position

1178
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:07,440
perhaps working for the military or the

1179
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,800
local police

1180
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,640
to have been in a position to actually

1181
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,079
do that

1182
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,760
and again we hear

1183
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,680
uh that he chased that guy for an

1184
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,200
interview for quite some time the guy

1185
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,240
kept refusing but recently gave him the

1186
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,599
on the record

1187
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,160
on camera interview

1188
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,559
this is very compelling to me and piqued

1189
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:27,920
my interest

1190
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,400
back in this case because now we don't

1191
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:32,160
just have these original witnesses we've

1192
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,760
already heard about james fox is

1193
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:34,880
locating

1194
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,520
new witnesses with new pieces of the

1195
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,240
puzzle new parts of the story the blanks

1196
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,400
are being filled in

1197
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,960
and it would appear that if this witness

1198
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,880
is telling the truth that the

1199
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,480
government the brazilian government's

1200
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,760
explanation

1201
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,160
that the aliens at the hospital that

1202
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,640
people saw were simply

1203
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,400
a little couple

1204
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,559
uh there to give birth

1205
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,559
falls apart very quickly level of

1206
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,640
secrecy he gets phone calls from the

1207
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,160
base

1208
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,839
they ask him like hey

1209
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,319
how you doing how's your family doing

1210
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,920
you guys having a good time did you did

1211
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:11,440
you move yet or are you still in the

1212
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,839
same spot

1213
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,520
right great great i'm glad your family's

1214
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,520
doing good i'm glad you're

1215
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,520
you're doing good you know any change of

1216
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,599
plans you you know let us know

1217
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:24,000
that those kind of calls he gets all the

1218
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,960
time

1219
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,319
yeah i mean

1220
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:28,079
yeah and it's also interesting that a

1221
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,040
big part of this story has been that the

1222
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:34,559
all of the witnesses have been

1223
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,079
intimidated by quote men in suits

1224
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:40,480
government types unquote

1225
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,359
uh and that would certainly

1226
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,760
coincide with many other

1227
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,480
ufo stories of the so-called men in

1228
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:50,160
black

1229
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:51,599
uh so

1230
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,040
i suppose if you are uh interested in

1231
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,040
the the stories of the men in black then

1232
00:54:03,589 --> 00:53:59,920
it would not just be a united states

1233
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,599
phenomenon uh it would be

1234
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,440
international because these people are

1235
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,599
in brazil and there are brazilian

1236
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,079
apparently brazilian or allegedly there

1237
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:12,240
are brazilian men in black

1238
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,000
that are keeping tabs on and

1239
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,240
intimidating witnesses

1240
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:19,040
to these events and by the way that

1241
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:20,800
would include witnesses to the alien

1242
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,960
creatures as well as witnesses to the uh

1243
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,280
craft that people claimed that they saw

1244
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:28,800
in the skies

1245
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:32,240
directly preceding the witnesses who saw

1246
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,240
or believed that they saw alien bodies

1247
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,400
and that's very interesting to me if

1248
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:41,440
this was just a mentally disabled man

1249
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,640
covered in mud or you know a dog with

1250
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,680
mange that was deformed

1251
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,000
uh why would government officials be

1252
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,319
intimidating witnesses it doesn't make

1253
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,640
any sense the main difference between

1254
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,559
people like the people you interviewed

1255
00:55:02,309 --> 00:54:59,200
in brazil who were a part of the vargin

1256
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,319
virginia case and people like bigelow

1257
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,960
is bigelow's powerful rich and powerful

1258
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,680
guy who probably has

1259
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:10,000
a lot of leverage in government

1260
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,400
like i'm sure if he chose one day on his

1261
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,240
whether it be just because he was in the

1262
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,760
right mood or because he was on his

1263
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,440
deathbed whatever

1264
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,119
if he chose to release that information

1265
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,119
i'm sure he could do it and wouldn't

1266
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,040
have to suffer any kind of crazy

1267
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:24,960
repercussions maybe i'm wrong but the

1268
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,799
guys that are in brazil

1269
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,880
like literally like they're dealing with

1270
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,040
the threats of military and government

1271
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:32,720
threatening their families i feel like

1272
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,640
it's a little bit different i feel like

1273
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,040
bigelow's in a position of

1274
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,440
i hold on to this mad like it's it's

1275
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,119
like this piece of magic that he's

1276
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:43,440
holding this this power

1277
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:46,079
the power to change the world yeah for

1278
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:46,799
me

1279
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,319
i feel like bigelow is selfish yeah

1280
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:52,400
because when i met with

1281
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,079
i think i might have called him later as

1282
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,599
well a couple of times i can't remember

1283
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,000
but i i said to him

1284
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,240
whose side are you on

1285
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,400
you know and i was serious because like

1286
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:04,240
everything that i do

1287
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,440
i do

1288
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,839
to share everything that i uncover with

1289
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,359
the rest of the world that's why i do

1290
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:11,200
what i do

1291
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,280
i honestly and firmly believe that every

1292
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,040
man woman and child on this planet is

1293
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,440
entitled to this information i believe

1294
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:19,119
that with all my heart

1295
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,640
you know and it pisses me off quite

1296
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:23,440
frankly that someone feels that we are

1297
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,400
not worthy of knowing this that we

1298
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,559
can't handle it or that we

1299
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,160
don't deserve it or something you know

1300
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:32,640
what i mean so it's like

1301
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:33,599
uh

1302
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,640
when i see someone of his

1303
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,000
like

1304
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,319
stature you know he's got resources man

1305
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,079
that guy's a billionaire

1306
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,400
yeah well to his credit i i don't i

1307
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:46,000
don't want to be the guy defending bob

1308
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:47,359
bigelow

1309
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,760
where his mouth is multiple times so i'm

1310
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:55,760
not sure this characterization of him is

1311
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:56,640
fair

1312
00:57:01,829 --> 00:56:59,200
because um some of you may be aware that

1313
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:01,839
bob bigelow has put money into

1314
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,280
things and gotten burned by scammers

1315
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,079
there's famous stories now most recently

1316
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:09,839
covered by stephen greenstreet of the

1317
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,119
new york post

1318
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,359
that bob bigelow you know he was paying

1319
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,680
he bought skinwalker ranch and he was

1320
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:17,440
paying all these people to investigate

1321
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:18,160
it

1322
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,839
they figured out that bob bigelow didn't

1323
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,520
want to hear nothing was going on at the

1324
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:24,079
ranch so they started uh feeding him

1325
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:24,839
fake

1326
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,599
stories there's also a famous story of

1327
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:29,760
bob bigelow uh

1328
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,599
beginning to start a business with bob

1329
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:33,440
lazar and then realizing that bob

1330
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,640
lazar's element 115 was actually an

1331
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,040
industrial lubricant or what bob lazar

1332
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:41,359
was claiming to him was element 115 was

1333
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:42,559
some sort of

1334
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,680
aviation lubricant and was not what bob

1335
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:47,440
lazar claimed it to be and he had

1336
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,319
already put put money into that so bob

1337
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,720
bigelow to his credit and there's also

1338
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,440
various rumors and stories uh bob

1339
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:57,280
bigelow funded john

1340
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,400
mack

1341
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:01,040
with his alien abduction research gave

1342
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,480
i'm told

1343
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:04,480
by several sources that bob bigelow has

1344
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,400
funded multiple

1345
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,200
multiple ufo researchers has just given

1346
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:10,880
the money

1347
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,160
with the caveat or the requirement that

1348
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,000
before they release to the public they

1349
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:18,079
give it to him first

1350
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,280
um

1351
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,119
and i have heard this for many many

1352
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,520
years we do have

1353
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,720
confirmation that bigelow has put money

1354
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,160
into

1355
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,240
at least john mack and at least bob

1356
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,559
lazar so he is putting his money where

1357
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,400
his mouth is i'm not sure this is fair

1358
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,799
to claim that he's hoarding secrets i

1359
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,319
don't think bob bigelow has any more

1360
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:40,079
secrets than any of us

1361
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,319
uh but he is in a position to have a an

1362
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,319
awful lot more resources but therefore

1363
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:46,240
he's in a position to be taken advantage

1364
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,760
of by grifters

1365
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,440
you know unlike a

1366
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,359
squirrel trying to get a nut out in this

1367
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,839
you know compared to a guy like that

1368
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,520
and then the fact that he's hoarding it

1369
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,599
all and it's under armed guard in a

1370
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,760
vault at his house like or is whatever

1371
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,960
his office

1372
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,559
yeah and i think that

1373
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,960
reports of him having so-called alien

1374
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:07,119
medals and all of this other stuff uh

1375
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,319
yeah uh it was largely overhyped over

1376
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:13,200
sensationalized stories that

1377
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,960
i don't believe were ever proven that

1378
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,880
he's hoarding anything or that he has

1379
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,720
some secret vault

1380
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:20,640
and of course these stories all get

1381
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:23,680
conflated was it bigelow who had the

1382
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,640
vault

1383
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,559
that they were keeping alien metals in

1384
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:28,160
or was it

1385
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,680
ttsa

1386
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,119
you know these stories all get

1387
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,680
intermingled and intertwined and

1388
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,680
it becomes confusing fast and it pisses

1389
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,200
me off a little bit

1390
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:39,440
i'm like what what wait a minute what

1391
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,160
what

1392
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:42,079
how are you does he have an agreement

1393
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:43,520
with the government so he has to do that

1394
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:46,720
or is he just being like selfish

1395
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,319
and doesn't want to share the results of

1396
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:51,200
of his you know work and investigation

1397
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,880
with the general public because he's

1398
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,480
like feels like he's better i don't know

1399
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:56,160
what the hell he's thinking

1400
01:00:01,349 --> 00:59:58,559
or he has no proof

1401
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,359
but i share everything

1402
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,440
the only thing i don't generally share

1403
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,760
is stuff that i know

1404
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,920
for sure be on a shadow of doubt that

1405
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,240
i'm gonna be looked at like a crazy guy

1406
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:12,400
because i've looked at myself as a crazy

1407
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,200
guy

1408
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,680
you know i

1409
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:18,240
i can't tell you enough like i'm putting

1410
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,520
my credibility on the line for this

1411
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,079
margina case okay

1412
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:23,760
because you got this and and i'll say

1413
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,319
right up front i honestly sincerely

1414
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,000
and unequivocally

1415
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,319
do not expect any of your audience to

1416
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:35,040
believe any of this

1417
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,480
without looking at the testimony in

1418
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:38,559
other words don't believe a word coming

1419
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:39,839
out of my mouth

1420
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,880
because

1421
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:42,400
i heard about this case

1422
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,240
decades ago i heard about it within a

1423
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:45,599
year or two of it happening and you

1424
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:48,480
wrote it off i dismissed it like like

1425
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,520
that

1426
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:50,960
i was like

1427
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,200
no way

1428
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:55,520
a ufo crashed and the being survived and

1429
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:58,000
we're walking through the town no way

1430
01:01:02,309 --> 01:00:59,839
and is it interesting

1431
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,319
that he certainly changed his tune after

1432
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:04,799
he began to speak to some of the

1433
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:06,880
original eyewitnesses and hear their

1434
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:09,280
stories and get a sense of whether they

1435
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,400
were

1436
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:12,880
you know credible people telling a real

1437
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:15,119
story or you know and it's also

1438
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:16,480
interesting to note

1439
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:17,359
that

1440
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:22,000
original witnesses were paid for their

1441
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:24,160
participation

1442
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,079
but i may be wrong in that and that

1443
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:27,920
would be one question that i would ask

1444
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,480
james fox are these witnesses being paid

1445
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:33,040
to appear in your documentary

1446
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,559
were they paid to be in the national

1447
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,200
geographic documentary

1448
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:39,040
you really have to follow the money and

1449
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,880
if somebody is profiting from telling a

1450
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:42,720
story

1451
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,040
it leads me to be suspicious but in in

1452
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:47,520
this case i'm not aware so far that

1453
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:49,920
these witnesses were being paid but i am

1454
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:51,680
aware that these three original female

1455
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,760
witnesses have never changed their story

1456
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:56,160
in 26 years they stand by their original

1457
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,119
account their stories haven't changed or

1458
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:01,359
you know become over

1459
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,200
sometimes the story changes and it

1460
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:05,520
becomes more sensational and parts are

1461
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:07,599
added that has not happened here to my

1462
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,359
knowledge however

1463
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:11,760
james fox has found new witnesses that

1464
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:12,559
may

1465
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,960
shed more light on the original incident

1466
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:16,400
no way

1467
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,750
i dismissed it for 10 years

1468
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:23,359
let's see no

1469
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:27,839
no i dismissed it in 97.

1470
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:29,280
i wouldn't look i wouldn't look into it

1471
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:30,799
for one second

1472
01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:33,440
not one second

1473
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:37,119
in 97 98 99 one one two three four five

1474
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:38,720
six seven eight nine

1475
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,640
13 years okay

1476
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,240
so 2011

1477
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:44,160
i was going to

1478
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:46,799
brazil on a completely

1479
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:48,000
another i was just going to give a

1480
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,680
presentation on one of the films i'd

1481
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,599
done probably probably i know what i saw

1482
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,119
or something

1483
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,440
and um

1484
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,359
my buddy jeff suganski

1485
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,720
the guy i was talking about earlier who

1486
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,720
met with jackie gleason he goes oh

1487
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:02,480
you're going to you're going to brazil

1488
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:03,839
you've got to look into the virginia

1489
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:06,000
case and i was like you mean the one

1490
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:07,680
where the ufo crashed and the aliens

1491
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:09,440
survived and walked through the town i

1492
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:12,559
go sure jeff i'll look into that click

1493
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,319
run myself on

1494
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,640
and uh and i had no intentions looking

1495
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,880
into it i told him i i might have said i

1496
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:20,880
would i i'm not looking at it i'm not

1497
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:23,599
wasting my time on that case

1498
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:27,119
so i get to brazil and this is 2011

1499
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:28,240
and

1500
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:31,520
totally accidentally completely like

1501
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:35,200
inadvertently i met some witnesses

1502
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,400
from they were happy to be at the

1503
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,640
conference that i was at

1504
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:40,240
and talk to them a little bit about it a

1505
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:45,270
hmm

1506
01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:47,119
i was like huh

1507
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,799
okay

1508
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,319
interesting

1509
01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:52,400
kind of believe them a little bit

1510
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,079
i have to just say

1511
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:56,640
on a personal note

1512
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:59,440
uh there was some interesting

1513
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:00,559
stories

1514
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:02,880
out there in ufo land that i gave no

1515
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:05,680
credence to i said that that is

1516
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:07,920
fantastical garbage

1517
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:09,920
and then i talked to some original

1518
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:12,480
witnesses to those events and

1519
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:14,240
certainly that will cause you to change

1520
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:15,839
your tune once you can look somebody in

1521
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:18,640
the eye and ask them questions get a

1522
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,280
sense of whether they're being truthful

1523
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:24,480
or making up a story you know you're

1524
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:27,920
you get to employ your bs meter

1525
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:29,359
so maybe that's what happened in this

1526
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:32,480
case because it seems he did a 180

1527
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,200
uh once he actually talked to witnesses

1528
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,319
so i went back in 2012 and i thought

1529
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:40,559
maybe there's something here

1530
01:04:44,789 --> 01:04:43,119
and i was knocking on doors and really

1531
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,799
chasing i mean i went down to downtown

1532
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:46,799
virginia brazil virginia is in the state

1533
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:49,200
of minas gerais which is about

1534
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,319
four or five hours north of sao paulo

1535
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:54,400
in sao paulo everyone we are myself used

1536
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:56,160
to think that including the capital of

1537
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:58,079
brazil but it's actually brasilia which

1538
01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:00,240
is way to the north but sao paulo is

1539
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,630
and uh

1540
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:08,789
second time around i was like

1541
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:10,000
wow

1542
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:10,880
um

1543
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:13,920
maybe there really is something to this

1544
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:16,640
and then i went a third time and then i

1545
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,880
went a fourth time

1546
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:21,359
and um and then ultimately i made the

1547
01:05:24,309 --> 01:05:22,559
film in them

1548
01:05:25,589 --> 01:05:24,319
absolutely beyond a shadow of doubt

1549
01:05:27,430 --> 01:05:25,599
fully

1550
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:27,440
completely convinced

1551
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:29,440
that a ufo crashed

1552
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:32,880
in january of 1996

1553
01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:33,839
and that

1554
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:34,559
the

1555
01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:39,359
were captured

1556
01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:41,200
by the authorities and witnessed by

1557
01:05:47,549 --> 01:05:44,240
civilians in the town of virginia brazil

1558
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:47,559
if that were true it would truly be an

1559
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,319
earth-shattering revelation right earth

1560
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,480
changing i should say

1561
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:54,799
if we got confirmation that alien

1562
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:57,039
creatures from another star system crash

1563
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:58,480
landed and

1564
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:01,760
survived and and we captured some

1565
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:03,119
that would

1566
01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:04,880
change everything

1567
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:07,920
about our culture our religion

1568
01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:10,160
maybe philosophy

1569
01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:12,319
uh

1570
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:15,200
our place in the universe and more

1571
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:18,640
and that's why this case is tantalizing

1572
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,200
it's it's quite like the roswell case it

1573
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,520
always felt felt to me with the roswell

1574
01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:25,680
case like we're just this close to

1575
01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:27,359
getting the confirmation that that

1576
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,280
really was aliens

1577
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:31,119
and now it would appear in this

1578
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,960
virginia case that

1579
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:34,960
we're this close

1580
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,280
um and i hope we are this close and the

1581
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,799
film is complete now

1582
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:40,640
totally done and you started working on

1583
01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:41,920
it how many years ago

1584
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,359
well well it started like actually

1585
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:44,400
making the film i know you've been

1586
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,760
researching it researching for a long

1587
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,280
time so if you look at from when i

1588
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,960
started researching until the completion

1589
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,280
is probably 10 or 11 years

1590
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:53,599
yeah but an actual in like in terms of

1591
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:54,880
like

1592
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,039
we're gonna do this but you know all

1593
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:00,880
that prep work went into it

1594
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:03,760
uh that was just less than a year

1595
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,920
absolutely mind-bending film yeah for

1596
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:07,839
full disclosure i watched it

1597
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:09,359
monday night

1598
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,829
it had me in a chokehold the whole time

1599
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:17,760
i was watching it like i i did not look

1600
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:19,119
up once

1601
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:20,559
maybe we should show the trailer before

1602
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,960
we go crazy deeper into it can you can

1603
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:25,039
you pull the trailer for it

1604
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:28,079
yeah and again uh

1605
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:31,359
what i'm what i'm curious about is that

1606
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:32,400
uh

1607
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:35,520
james fox has made these statements that

1608
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:38,480
he has located

1609
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:43,680
he's saying the film is done

1610
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:45,839
so i you know i'm a little disappointed

1611
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:49,200
with this podcaster's follow up uh but

1612
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:51,200
he he doesn't mention that yet but he

1613
01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:53,039
will later in this interview

1614
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:53,839
like

1615
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:58,000
if if the man said that he had located

1616
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,520
video and images of these aliens

1617
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:03,599
you would assume that that he would put

1618
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:06,000
them in the film so

1619
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:08,319
everybody right now is speculating is

1620
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:11,760
their footage video footage or

1621
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,880
imagery of these actual alien creatures

1622
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,799
in this new film of his

1623
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:18,799
and i don't understand why nobody's

1624
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,960
asked him directly if that is in the

1625
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,319
film

1626
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,359
because if it's not this is a case of

1627
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:27,440
over promising and under delivering are

1628
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,520
we all gonna buy the movie and then find

1629
01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:31,600
out oh i found out about that footage

1630
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,679
after i finished the movie so it's not

1631
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,920
in the movie but we're gonna maybe we'll

1632
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,480
do a part two when we get the footage

1633
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,319
that would be

1634
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,640
over promising under delivering and it

1635
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,120
would be a tremendous letdown for a

1636
01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:47,040
moment of contact

1637
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:49,839
this trailer took i think three months

1638
01:09:02,229 --> 01:08:59,590
in 1996

1639
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:02,239
the people of virginia brazil

1640
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:22,470
vehicle that had beings on board

1641
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,709
[Music]

1642
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:35,430
finally the facts will be revealed

1643
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:38,159
the virginia case is considered the most

1644
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,279
well-kept secret in the military circles

1645
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:42,960
of brazil

1646
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,880
my objective here is to put some clarity

1647
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:47,279
on what took place in virginia brazil

1648
01:10:09,750 --> 01:09:57,590
the witnesses are some of the most

1649
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:11,189
action

1650
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,880
a lot of people in this town have a

1651
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:14,239
little piece of the puzzle you're

1652
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,910
after he captured the creature he

1653
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:35,840
developed his infections that wouldn't

1654
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,630
yes it's interesting to note that one of

1655
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:41,920
the people

1656
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:43,920
that claimed to have been exposed to one

1657
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,080
of the creatures developed some very

1658
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:48,320
very serious medical

1659
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,719
problems directly after being in close

1660
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,440
contact with the creature and this

1661
01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:54,880
is part of the

1662
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:57,520
documented story perhaps

1663
01:11:02,070 --> 01:10:59,440
but one of some of the questions that i

1664
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:02,080
have about this new film of james fox is

1665
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,280
that

1666
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:05,280
we can see a lot of what appears to be

1667
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,229
and i guess again with managing my

1668
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:14,800
expectations for this film i'm wondering

1669
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:17,360
is this largely a retelling of the story

1670
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:19,360
that we've already heard before

1671
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,000
we have seen time and time again that

1672
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:24,719
stories come back they boomerang and

1673
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:27,520
it's just again a new person telling the

1674
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,600
same story we've already heard

1675
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:31,440
in other outlets we saw that with the

1676
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:34,560
bob lazar story and other stories you

1677
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,360
know

1678
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,199
people come in and they just

1679
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:38,880
you know let's put some new stock

1680
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,040
footage on it take some archival footage

1681
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,120
maybe we'll get a few new interviews and

1682
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:45,520
we'll sell the same story again

1683
01:11:51,120 --> 01:12:09,000
this can no longer be covered up

1684
01:12:09,010 --> 01:12:19,910
[Music]

1685
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,229
this is a level of confirmation that

1686
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:24,320
only a handful of people on this planet

1687
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:32,550
now again

1688
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:34,800
we we need to talk about over promising

1689
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:37,120
and under delivering so right in the

1690
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,560
trailer of the film

1691
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:40,560
the narrator which is the same narrator

1692
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:42,880
from the phenomenon film by the way

1693
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:44,719
uh great narrator

1694
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:46,640
he mentions that this is the most

1695
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:50,640
conclusive proof of alien contact

1696
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,400
and again

1697
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,640
you know i'm trying to not get too

1698
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:57,280
excited here because i'm trying to say

1699
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,719
to myself

1700
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,199
uh we've we've all been to this rodeo

1701
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,600
before where people promise conclusive

1702
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,000
proof and and this and that and you know

1703
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:08,640
what constitutes proof

1704
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:10,400
what are we going to get with this film

1705
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:12,560
are we going to get a bunch of

1706
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:15,520
interviews and stories from people

1707
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,239
uh because that is evidence certainly

1708
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,960
but if the most compelling proof that

1709
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,120
they have that they're promising in the

1710
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:25,040
trailer is just people

1711
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,440
retelling the same stories they've told

1712
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,760
since 1996

1713
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:31,600
then i would say this is being over

1714
01:13:36,229 --> 01:13:34,320
hyped and may under deliver but i'm

1715
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,239
still hopeful because according to james

1716
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,560
fox there is new interviews

1717
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:40,560
with people that have never been heard

1718
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:43,040
from before that he vetted

1719
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,719
and um

1720
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,960
i for one am excited to see this film a

1721
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:48,560
lot more than i'm excited to see the

1722
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:51,600
aerial uh school film because

1723
01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:53,840
you know that was largely a retelling

1724
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,590
fascinating trailers his first mistake

1725
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:03,120
turned out

1726
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,880
to be his last

1727
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:07,040
what a [\h__\h] compelling voice he has

1728
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:09,040
man so good one of the most unique

1729
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:12,840
voices i know ever i know i know i was a

1730
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,320
little little worried again i'm pushing

1731
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:18,480
the envelope make sure you turn the usb

1732
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:20,239
a channel down again it's good okay yeah

1733
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:22,880
i'm i'm i'm pushing the envelope a

1734
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,719
little on the comfort level of of those

1735
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,480
around me because you're dealing with

1736
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:30,640
like this i know how i looked at the

1737
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:33,120
case and i looked at the case when i

1738
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,040
first heard about it the virginia case

1739
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,880
i dismissed it so quickly i told you

1740
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:40,400
earlier like

1741
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:41,760
i know

1742
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:42,560
how

1743
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,840
other people are going to react right

1744
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:47,440
when they hear

1745
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:51,280
sure a ufo crash sure the beans survived

1746
01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:57,040
yeah you know i i cause that's how i

1747
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,110
i'm literally putting my 30-year

1748
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:03,199
reputation on the line for this one

1749
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:05,120
29-year reputation online do you what i

1750
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:05,520
mean

1751
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:06,640
[Music]

1752
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:08,320
i stand behind it

1753
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,320
and i

1754
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,159
think you do as well

1755
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,840
sure that's got a lot of pizzazz the

1756
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:17,840
trailer is designed to get people to

1757
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:21,600
watch the film but the film delivers

1758
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,480
it does it it delivers it delivers it's

1759
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,880
not just a bunch of hot air not at all

1760
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:29,040
the the amount of evidence that you have

1761
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,800
the amount of people civilians and

1762
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:32,800
ex-military that you talk to is is

1763
01:15:37,750 --> 01:15:35,679
astounding and i don't correct me if i'm

1764
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,760
wrong i know the

1765
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,360
zimbabwe

1766
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:42,000
case is close to this when it comes to

1767
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:44,560
the amount of witnesses

1768
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:47,199
but when you have civilian witnesses

1769
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,159
mixed with military and police witnesses

1770
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:52,480
on top of that

1771
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:53,280
so

1772
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,560
people handling this creature and seeing

1773
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,719
it come into their place of work into

1774
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,400
the hospital

1775
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,880
i don't think there's ever been a case

1776
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:05,280
where there's been a being like this

1777
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,520
with all these witnesses running around

1778
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:10,080
a neighborhood or a city

1779
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:13,040
has there no i've never i've never i've

1780
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:16,159
never i i just it seems so sci-fi i get

1781
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:17,440
the goosebumps

1782
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:20,719
talking about it because

1783
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:23,840
i challenge anyone out there in the ufo

1784
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:24,880
community

1785
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:27,600
anyone to show me a

1786
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:34,630
it's the most sensational story i've

1787
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,679
ever heard and the crazy part about it

1788
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,080
is that you will believe it

1789
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,480
i have one of my most skeptical friends

1790
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,360
who's watched my career from day one one

1791
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,320
of my best friends he lives in san diego

1792
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,920
and

1793
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,239
he's been moderately supportive

1794
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:54,480
and he watched the phenomenon he loved

1795
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:55,520
it

1796
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,760
he watched this one about a month ago

1797
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,760
and i always he's my he's my

1798
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,600
barometer

1799
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:03,920
and uh he called me up and he goes

1800
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:09,510
uh i'm floored i saw he

1801
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:11,440
he goes it's a crazy story i've ever

1802
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:13,360
heard in my life

1803
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:15,199
and i actually believe it happened i

1804
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:16,640
think this is the most powerful thing

1805
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:18,960
you've ever done and it's not it's not

1806
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:21,280
my story right i'm just reporting on it

1807
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:23,120
right but we went out of our way to

1808
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:24,080
really

1809
01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:26,000
i mean

1810
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,840
we worked on some of those witnesses for

1811
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,520
nearly a decade

1812
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,679
we identified some of the doctors early

1813
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:33,920
on they were like i will never talk with

1814
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:34,640
you

1815
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:37,280
might as well just

1816
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,480
it's not even

1817
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,560
it's interesting to note that he appears

1818
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,880
to be promising that he is not

1819
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:44,400
overhyping and

1820
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,400
going to under deliver did you hear that

1821
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,320
line he said this is not just all hot

1822
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:50,159
air

1823
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,080
i'm hopeful it's not and i'm anxious to

1824
01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:54,000
see the whole thing and then

1825
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:56,239
one of them

1826
01:18:00,709 --> 01:17:59,360
allegedly the guy that did the x-rays

1827
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,719
which for some reason i don't know

1828
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,159
there's something about that testimony

1829
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,880
that really just like for me personally

1830
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:06,400
listening to him

1831
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,719
he goes at the end of it he goes thank

1832
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,040
you for giving me this opportunity this

1833
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,679
has been maybe the heaviest weight on my

1834
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:16,080
shoulders for so long

1835
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,600
the fact that i have the opportunity

1836
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,679
even though i'm doing it anonymously the

1837
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,080
fact that i've got and everybody that we

1838
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,400
feature that you're filming from behind

1839
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,400
you know we have their credentials we

1840
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,400
have them in uniform we have all the

1841
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:30,960
history of them and all of it right so

1842
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:33,360
we verify all of that before they even

1843
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:35,600
and then the fact that we

1844
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:36,800
get them

1845
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:39,040
to come forward was just a miracle quite

1846
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,199
honestly just a miracle

1847
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,880
yeah to you what was the most compelling

1848
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:45,040
piece of evidence or interviews that you

1849
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:46,400
did from all the people you talked to in

1850
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:49,120
brazil like in brazil yeah what to you

1851
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:50,560
what was the thing that stood out to you

1852
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,320
the most like i met with an air force

1853
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:55,920
brigadier

1854
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:58,880
by the name of jose carlos pereira

1855
01:19:01,990 --> 01:19:00,640
i have a photograph of him in uniform

1856
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:02,000
somewhere

1857
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,520
and

1858
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,280
he said i'll talk to you about the ufo

1859
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:07,600
phenomenon in brazil gladly i could talk

1860
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,920
about this case in 86 ufos of brazil and

1861
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,080
i could talk about the kolaris case

1862
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:14,000
but i don't want to talk about virginia

1863
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:15,360
i was like

1864
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:16,480
okay

1865
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:18,080
well you didn't talk about virginia

1866
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:19,920
don't even bring it up

1867
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:22,480
i was like jesus so

1868
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,800
uh marco my my partner in brazil

1869
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,280
uh we did the interview

1870
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:31,679
i honored the fact that

1871
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:33,440
i don't know how i brought it up

1872
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,880
but i did i basically didn't bring it up

1873
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:36,640
on could be jameson

1874
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:41,910
at the end of the interview and i have

1875
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,760
video and photographic proof that i was

1876
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:45,199
with this guy at the end of the

1877
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,320
interview

1878
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,480
we walked him he could be right ladybug

1879
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:50,960
where he had his driver waiting

1880
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:53,440
and i looked him in the eye and i said i

1881
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,679
swear on my life and my family's life

1882
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,159
there are no recording devices

1883
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,760
could be right arlene no camera's

1884
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:01,120
rolling

1885
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:05,360
please general like please tell me

1886
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:07,679
did virginia happen or not

1887
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:09,600
and marco and i were just basically just

1888
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:11,760
i mean we were like i mean i'd never

1889
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:15,199
begged i wanted to know so bad

1890
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:16,239
and

1891
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:26,480
the door off he drove

1892
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:30,800
so i had at that early stage

1893
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,120
very definitive for me

1894
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,960
it's obviously this is a story for you

1895
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:36,480
or anybody else listen to what i'm

1896
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:37,679
saying

1897
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:39,760
why on earth

1898
01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:41,679
would he not want to talk about it why

1899
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:43,360
on earth would i have to beg and plead

1900
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:45,120
with him on my hands and knees to get

1901
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:47,679
him very discreetly at the last possible

1902
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:49,840
second when he was driving off to look

1903
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,520
at us and say it happened why on earth

1904
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:53,120
would he lie to us

1905
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:55,199
you know this part i have sort of a

1906
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:57,679
problem with because trust me dude i

1907
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,440
talked to uh

1908
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:01,600
you know a brigadier general that i'm

1909
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:03,280
not gonna name

1910
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,280
that i didn't get an on-camera interview

1911
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:07,440
with but he said it happened so it must

1912
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,639
have happened

1913
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:10,800
that's a little bit of a stretch for me

1914
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:14,560
but if we take it as you know the story

1915
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:16,320
the way he's describing it like at the

1916
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:19,120
beginning of his his real deep dive into

1917
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:20,080
this

1918
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,000
that sort of gave him the confirmation

1919
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:23,840
that he needed to move forward and you

1920
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:25,600
do have to give james fox credit for

1921
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:27,440
developing these sources

1922
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,719
and for

1923
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:30,080
you know

1924
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:32,239
like a hound dog following the trail of

1925
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,600
the truth here

1926
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,239
for over a decade and so i had a pretty

1927
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:38,080
concrete level of

1928
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:39,280
confirmation

1929
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:41,040
early on on the case

1930
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,280
so now it's like okay we got to keep

1931
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,199
digging we've got to keep digging but

1932
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:47,040
what we were finding was is that the

1933
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:48,719
better the witness

1934
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,239
the less likely they wanted to come

1935
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:52,560
forward and that the more likely that

1936
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:56,960
they had been intimidated and threatened

1937
01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:59,679
um and they would do it in a way where

1938
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:01,120
it wasn't like hey we're going to kill

1939
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,360
you it was just like the punishment for

1940
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:07,199
violating your security oath or your

1941
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:08,320
security

1942
01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:10,800
is going to be so severe

1943
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,440
they would say you know so severe

1944
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:15,120
you know how's your family kind of thing

1945
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,880
they not we're going to kill your family

1946
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:18,400
but these are the kinds of things it was

1947
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:21,280
spooky right to the witnesses like

1948
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:23,280
really spooked them and then to get

1949
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:25,920
phone calls every couple years

1950
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:27,600
hey how you doing you know that kind of

1951
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:28,400
thing

1952
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:29,920
so

1953
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,800
lucky

1954
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,400
and i've got to take my

1955
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:38,960
tip my hat a hundred times to marco leo

1956
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:41,360
my my my producing partner

1957
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:43,040
uh who's brazilian

1958
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:44,800
uh who's been investigating this case

1959
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,600
longer than i have and he's been just uh

1960
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:49,920
a force to be reckoned with could never

1961
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,560
have done it without marco it's also

1962
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:54,239
interesting to note that

1963
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,320
james fox tells many stories of the

1964
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,159
witnesses being intimidated but of

1965
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:00,639
course these are stories and there's no

1966
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,920
confirmation or evidence to support them

1967
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,840
being intimidated other than their word

1968
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:07,600
that people called them and intimidated

1969
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,480
them

1970
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:11,199
this again is that sort of trust me

1971
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,239
prove super duper prover maneuver

1972
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,080
you know uh why would they intimidate

1973
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,480
witnesses if this wasn't aliens well

1974
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:20,320
that's sort of a leap you know i have a

1975
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:21,520
little bit of a problem with that as

1976
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,320
well

1977
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,320
if witnesses were intimidated i'd like

1978
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:26,639
to see phone logs phone records you know

1979
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,159
like if you could show a phone record

1980
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:30,560
coming from a government office to the

1981
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:31,840
witnesses

1982
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:36,639
that they were intimidated or called and

1983
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:39,520
warned off of talking about it okay

1984
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:40,480
but

1985
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:42,400
sometimes all we get is stories and

1986
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,360
that's problematic for me incredible

1987
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:47,120
what um

1988
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,320
for people that are listening and

1989
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,920
watching can you lay out kind of a

1990
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:51,280
linear

1991
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:54,400
timeline of of what went down what was

1992
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:58,960
seen first was it crafts the crash from

1993
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,600
the girls to the cop that actually

1994
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:03,600
captured the yeah

1995
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:04,719
so

1996
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,679
um

1997
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:07,920
in january uh

1998
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:10,560
probably 12th or 13th

1999
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:13,840
of 1996

2000
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:16,719
um there was a

2001
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:19,280
uh ultralight pilot

2002
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,320
by the name of carlos de souza

2003
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:25,120
and carlos was driving from sao paulo up

2004
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:28,159
to a state called um

2005
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,840
ministerais

2006
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:31,600
a state to the north

2007
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,719
and in minas generalize is virginia and

2008
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,120
a number of surrounding cities

2009
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:39,199
um and he was driving on the freeway i

2010
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,560
think it was

2011
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,400
five o'clock in the morning

2012
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,719
five five 30 maybe

2013
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,280
and he saw something in the sky

2014
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:49,679
that was cigar shaped that didn't look

2015
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:50,960
right and it looked like it was in

2016
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:52,239
trouble

2017
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:53,440
and

2018
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,159
he witnessed it crash

2019
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,320
prior to that there were two it was like

2020
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:00,400
2 30 in the morning there were two

2021
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,400
farmers which i interviewed both of them

2022
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,719
as well that saw the object that looked

2023
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:06,000
like it was going to crash but they

2024
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,520
didn't see it crash

2025
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:09,360
there was two of them and it was about 2

2026
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,400
30 o'clock in the morning for them and

2027
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:14,960
it was a cigar-shaped

2028
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:17,360
object and it had a gash in the side of

2029
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,960
it and it had vapor coming out like a

2030
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:20,480
white vapor coming out according to the

2031
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:21,600
witnesses

2032
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,120
but they kept kind of expecting it to

2033
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:27,760
to impact the ground but they didn't see

2034
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,040
it impact the ground because it looked

2035
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,719
like it was in serious trouble and it

2036
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,639
was flying slowly

2037
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,719
so then carlos de souza

2038
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,560
like i said was up early one morning

2039
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:38,639
driving to go meet some ultralight pilot

2040
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:40,480
friends of his to go flying

2041
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,320
and he saw this object

2042
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,080
and then he saw it kind of go down like

2043
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,560
it was going down

2044
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,480
and he jumped off the freeway and he

2045
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:50,960
drove up this this farm called uh

2046
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:53,040
myolini farm

2047
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:54,400
and he

2048
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,880
came upon

2049
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:58,320
maybe a football

2050
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:59,760
size field

2051
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,639
of

2052
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:01,840
debris

2053
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,400
and one very large piece of the

2054
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:06,400
cigar-shaped ufo that was kind of a

2055
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:09,840
metallic light that was still intact

2056
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,000
someone in the live chat earlier asked

2057
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:13,920
uh where did the

2058
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:16,400
ufo crash what happened to the ufo

2059
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:18,560
that's all detailed in the film and and

2060
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,800
here james fox is recounting parts of

2061
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:23,040
that story but a lot of bits that were

2062
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:24,400
not intact

2063
01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,239
and

2064
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,320
he jumped out of his car

2065
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:30,000
he ran up

2066
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,600
and he said there were like these like

2067
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,920
tin foil type pieces

2068
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:36,000
he wasn't thinking extraterrestrial he

2069
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:37,199
thought it was a government thing he

2070
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:38,239
didn't know what it was thought there

2071
01:26:40,229 --> 01:26:39,199
were some people that were in trouble

2072
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,239
yeah he thought there was people in

2073
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,800
trouble he wanted to help them you never

2074
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:45,440
ever ever did he think alien not one

2075
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:47,040
time not till after what i'm about to

2076
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:49,600
tell you so then i don't want to give

2077
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:51,360
too much away but he

2078
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,199
he held one of the pieces and he said it

2079
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,719
was light as a feather very similar to

2080
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,080
what the description of the people in

2081
01:27:01,390 --> 01:26:58,560
roswell where he could take it

2082
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:01,400
and crumple it up and then it would

2083
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,400
re-bound and reshape itself but it was

2084
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,440
light like

2085
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:07,280
just so light you could barely feel it

2086
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,320
in your hands it was looking at her

2087
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:10,639
going the hell is this

2088
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:12,800
and this of course is the same

2089
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:14,639
description that many people gave of the

2090
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:16,880
roswell debris and then all of a sudden

2091
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:20,159
these military trucks start rolling in

2092
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:22,080
they take guns out and they threaten him

2093
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:22,960
and

2094
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:25,840
uh

2095
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:27,360
he

2096
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,679
gets in his you know gets in his car and

2097
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:32,080
they forced him to leave and it was all

2098
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:34,880
rather terrifying for him and he

2099
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:36,480
off he goes and he was collecting

2100
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,520
himself

2101
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,920
i don't know half an hour down the road

2102
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:41,360
at a gas station

2103
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,120
went in to get a coffee

2104
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:45,280
and that's when he had a visit

2105
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:46,480
from these men

2106
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,719
he basically like knew his name and knew

2107
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:51,199
everything about him and warned him of

2108
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,440
keeping his mouth shut this was right

2109
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:55,920
after pretty much right after uh i think

2110
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,600
within an hour or half an hour or

2111
01:28:01,310 --> 01:27:59,280
something like this

2112
01:28:04,629 --> 01:28:01,320
and

2113
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:04,639
a couple months after the incident he

2114
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:07,520
met with a famous ufo researcher by the

2115
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,000
name of claudio covo and he gave one

2116
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:12,480
brief on-camera statement and then he

2117
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:14,800
vanished for 26 years

2118
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:18,800
well marco and and his associates

2119
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,719
were because i kept saying

2120
01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:22,000
10 years ago i was like we've got to

2121
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:24,560
find the crash we got to find carlos

2122
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:26,080
like we got to find the guy but he was

2123
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:27,679
just vanished

2124
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,440
i think it took us like eight years we

2125
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:31,040
found him

2126
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:36,800
uh so then roughly

2127
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:38,560
let's see it would have been

2128
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:41,600
uh the morning of of january 13th so

2129
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:42,400
the

2130
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,880
afternoon of january 20th

2131
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:46,320
you've got

2132
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,440
uh

2133
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,400
all sorts of reports of unusual activity

2134
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:51,600
in the town of virginia you're getting

2135
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:54,719
reports of weird strange creatures

2136
01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,400
nobody said e.t

2137
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,760
he was like what the hell are these

2138
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,120
creatures

2139
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:01,920
um the fire department was called uh was

2140
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:05,120
five days wow about five days yeah and

2141
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,880
the distance i think the distance

2142
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:08,800
between the crash

2143
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,760
and

2144
01:29:14,390 --> 01:29:11,760
the sighting in the town of virginia is

2145
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,400
somewhere in the realm of 12 to 15 miles

2146
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,080
wow

2147
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:17,760
something like that yeah that's

2148
01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:19,440
interesting and one other side note is

2149
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:21,600
that there is on the record

2150
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:24,159
statements from fire department people

2151
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:25,280
people who worked for the fire

2152
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,440
department in the town at the time

2153
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,679
who said that people were from the town

2154
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,000
were calling reporting strange creatures

2155
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,159
in the town

2156
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:36,320
that's an interesting tidbit and part of

2157
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:39,199
the story and so

2158
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:42,159
uh you're getting these reports

2159
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:43,600
the most

2160
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:46,320
compelling reports came from civilian

2161
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:47,360
reports

2162
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:50,880
came from three girls it was a katya

2163
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:54,400
liliani and valkyria

2164
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:57,600
and valkyria and liliani are two sisters

2165
01:30:02,310 --> 01:29:59,120
and then katya was a little older she's

2166
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:02,320
21 and it was like 14 and 16.

2167
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:03,920
and they were

2168
01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:06,480
uh going through a little field

2169
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,080
on the outskirts of town but in the town

2170
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,760
and they saw

2171
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:13,280
this

2172
01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:14,480
creature

2173
01:30:18,830 --> 01:30:16,719
in broad daylight i think it was like

2174
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:18,840
three o'clock in the afternoon

2175
01:30:25,990 --> 01:30:23,440
uh crouched against a a a a

2176
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:26,000
um cinder block wall

2177
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:27,600
and

2178
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:28,560
we're like

2179
01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:30,159
you know looking at this thing like what

2180
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:32,400
the heck are we looking at here and it

2181
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:34,800
had it was it was weak

2182
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,000
it had

2183
01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:38,320
spindly arms and legs

2184
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:39,679
it had

2185
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:42,000
like a brown oily skin almost like a

2186
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:43,520
kidney or something

2187
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:44,880
do you know what i mean like it was like

2188
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:47,520
an exposed organ

2189
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:50,239
and it had and they they shrieked when

2190
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:52,080
they looked at it and then it turned and

2191
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:54,080
made eye contact

2192
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,280
two of the girls i think it was liliani

2193
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:58,960
and valkyria

2194
01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:00,719
took off

2195
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,480
and katya

2196
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:04,560
got completely

2197
01:31:09,669 --> 01:31:07,520
mesmerized by making eye contact with it

2198
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:09,679
there was some level of communication

2199
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:11,440
that was happening and katya was kind of

2200
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:13,840
frozen in her tracks she was about eight

2201
01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:16,000
feet maybe 10 feet away from it yeah

2202
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:18,800
it's this is interesting and again

2203
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,960
these three women who saw this creature

2204
01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:23,040
the government explained it away as them

2205
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,120
seeing a mentally disabled man covered

2206
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:27,520
in mud

2207
01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:28,719
uh

2208
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,480
you know i just i that would explain the

2209
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:32,400
brown skin but not the red eyes the

2210
01:31:37,030 --> 01:31:34,960
horns on the head uh the big head the

2211
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:37,040
alien appearance

2212
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:39,120
and um it was it was feeble it was

2213
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:41,199
scared according to katya

2214
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:43,360
uh it wanted help

2215
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:46,080
like get me out of here kind of thing

2216
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:46,880
help

2217
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:49,600
according to katya

2218
01:31:54,149 --> 01:31:51,440
the other two girls got i don't know 50

2219
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:54,159
or 70 feet away and we're like where's

2220
01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:56,159
katya we got to go back and get katya

2221
01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:58,320
and they ran back and it was liliani ran

2222
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:00,560
back and grabbed katya and broke her

2223
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:03,040
stare and yanked her out of there and

2224
01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:04,320
then they

2225
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:06,320
um

2226
01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:09,120
uh they reported they went running home

2227
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,719
to their mother

2228
01:32:13,510 --> 01:32:12,480
and they were like telling her what you

2229
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:13,520
know and they thought it was something

2230
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:15,520
of the devil like it was a devil or

2231
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:17,600
something did she say did she say

2232
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:20,159
anything about any kind of communication

2233
01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:21,679
between the being and her yeah

2234
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:23,440
telepathically i asked her about that

2235
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:25,280
yeah because i said this is where the

2236
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,960
title came from i said

2237
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:28,560
and i didn't even realize this at the

2238
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:30,880
time i said because i wanted to know i

2239
01:32:34,070 --> 01:32:32,320
know it was very brief it was probably

2240
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:34,080
just a couple of seconds

2241
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,440
but a lot can happen in that moment in a

2242
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:39,679
couple of seconds time slows down right

2243
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:42,000
and you kind of get you know what i mean

2244
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:44,480
yeah like uh so i said during that

2245
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:46,800
moment of contact

2246
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:48,719
was there any level of communication if

2247
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:51,040
so what was said what did you feel

2248
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:52,480
and she said there was obviously no

2249
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,400
words or anything but it was like

2250
01:33:03,590 --> 01:32:56,400
i'm scared

2251
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:03,600
that was what she got and katya was was

2252
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:06,159
staying behind and liliana and valkyrie

2253
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:07,840
went back and grabbed her katya was the

2254
01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:10,320
oldest she was 21.

2255
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:11,440
yeah so

2256
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:13,040
throughout the next part of the

2257
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:16,400
interview he recounts uh the stories of

2258
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:19,199
uh the military involvement and people

2259
01:33:25,750 --> 01:33:22,480
seeing all kinds of police military

2260
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:25,760
vehicles all over the city

2261
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,080
fire trucks and more

2262
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:31,360
and later witnesses

2263
01:33:37,510 --> 01:33:35,040
he claims that he interviewed one of the

2264
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,520
government officials who drove

2265
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:39,520
one of the creatures to the local

2266
01:33:44,629 --> 01:33:42,080
hospital and there are various witnesses

2267
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:44,639
from the hospital including a doctor who

2268
01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:47,120
did x-rays and more tests to these

2269
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:48,320
creatures

2270
01:33:53,830 --> 01:33:51,280
and again he's got on the record

2271
01:33:56,229 --> 01:33:53,840
on the record statements

2272
01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:56,239
on the record on camera interviews of

2273
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,480
these witnesses in the film

2274
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,239
uh so to me that's

2275
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:02,880
it's just so many witnesses of these

2276
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:05,440
creatures it's hard to explain it all

2277
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:06,480
away

2278
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:07,920
and in fact

2279
01:34:12,629 --> 01:34:09,760
i would kind of love to see myself as

2280
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:12,639
skeptic or debunkers explanation

2281
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:14,639
what were all these witnesses seeing a

2282
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:18,880
deformed dog with mange you know a bald

2283
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:22,000
manged up deformed dog

2284
01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:24,080
doesn't make any sense uh and again it

2285
01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:26,000
doesn't explain the red eyes or any of

2286
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:27,600
that

2287
01:34:31,669 --> 01:34:29,840
but we're gonna uh we're gonna forward

2288
01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:31,679
along to the section where he talks

2289
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,000
about the actual footage because

2290
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:36,960
recently twitter was sort of uh

2291
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,000
a firestorm of controversy erupted

2292
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:42,320
because james fox has made claims that

2293
01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:44,639
he had located footage

2294
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:47,600
of the alien creatures and

2295
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:50,320
images of these alien creatures that all

2296
01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:52,719
of these people in this town claim to

2297
01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:54,880
have witnessed to the witnesses

2298
01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:55,840
that

2299
01:35:01,830 --> 01:34:58,239
i interviewed personally

2300
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:01,840
that being was a sentient being it had

2301
01:35:07,030 --> 01:35:05,440
emotion it had intelligence it had

2302
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:07,040
uh fear

2303
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:08,960
it had um

2304
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:10,639
it was cowering it was scared it was

2305
01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:13,280
non-threatening it was scared

2306
01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:16,560
and it was feeble and having a hard time

2307
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:17,600
so

2308
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:19,440
i mean it's kind of sad you know when

2309
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:20,800
you think about it

2310
01:35:23,590 --> 01:35:22,000
i started

2311
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:23,600
thinking like

2312
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:29,030
how did they treat this thing

2313
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:30,800
you know did they

2314
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,400
were they were they kind to it do they

2315
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:34,560
try to make any kind of communication

2316
01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:36,400
what did the authorities do

2317
01:35:40,950 --> 01:35:38,480
did how long did it live

2318
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,960
did it live for weeks or days i i just

2319
01:35:44,709 --> 01:35:42,880
wish i knew you know

2320
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:44,719
i need to find

2321
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:47,679
the counter like once it left

2322
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:48,880
the

2323
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:54,639
and we have very compelling testimony

2324
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:57,520
that it did uh what happened to it

2325
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:59,440
was it alive

2326
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:01,199
uh how long did it live how long did it

2327
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:02,639
live was there any level of

2328
01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:05,199
communication with it you know all these

2329
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:07,280
questions i have unanswered and i just

2330
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:10,239
dying to know yes and if you believe the

2331
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:12,800
other various stories of ufo crash

2332
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:14,080
retrievals

2333
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,480
including the retrieval of biological

2334
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:19,199
entities all roads lead back to the

2335
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:22,080
united states in fact uh

2336
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:24,239
i have uh

2337
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:29,750
i'm sure that i have heard multiple

2338
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:32,400
stories of ufo crashes in mexico or

2339
01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:33,840
south america

2340
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:36,719
where the local authorities or military

2341
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:38,960
handled the initial pickup

2342
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:41,040
of the materials

2343
01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:43,360
but then the united states intervened

2344
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:46,639
and took all of the materials back to

2345
01:36:50,830 --> 01:36:49,920
your guess is as good as mine area 51

2346
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:50,840
wright

2347
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:54,560
patterson wherever the

2348
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:57,119
ufo files are kept

2349
01:37:02,310 --> 01:36:59,360
and there's also a famous story of a ufo

2350
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:02,320
crash in mexico where the original

2351
01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:04,159
people who were exposed to the

2352
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:07,360
biological entities actually died

2353
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,760
and shortly thereafter if you believe

2354
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:11,440
those stories in that

2355
01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:16,629
united states officials

2356
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:19,440
military officials and others arrived

2357
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:21,920
and cordoned off the area and took all

2358
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:24,880
of the materials away from the mexican

2359
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,320
officials

2360
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,159
apparently

2361
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:30,080
the mexican officials didn't know how to

2362
01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:31,119
handle

2363
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,480
this material but the united states

2364
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:36,400
again if you believe the story since

2365
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:38,239
roswell has been

2366
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:41,520
in possession of alien artifacts crash

2367
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:44,000
retrieved items materials biological

2368
01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:46,480
samples and entities

2369
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:49,280
so they knew how to deal with them

2370
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:52,560
um and in this case two

2371
01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:55,760
we get stories of the brazilian

2372
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,119
officials being the first to handle

2373
01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:01,520
the actual incident but then american

2374
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:05,199
officials come in and take over

2375
01:38:09,270 --> 01:38:07,360
and i'm going to continue

2376
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:09,280
researching this case in the united

2377
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,960
states

2378
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,080
because

2379
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,560
i'm going to start finding out i know

2380
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:17,280
we're a bunch of i've i know of a bunch

2381
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:18,719
of evidence photographic evidence

2382
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:21,119
videotaped evidence filmed evidence and

2383
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:24,719
now physical debris evidence with bodies

2384
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,280
i'm very confident that

2385
01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:29,840
some unknown government agency or

2386
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:32,719
outside government agency whether it's a

2387
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:34,400
independent contractor for the united

2388
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:36,960
states government has got this stuff

2389
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,400
now my objective moving forward is

2390
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:42,239
where is it and who has the authority to

2391
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:43,360
release it

2392
01:38:48,149 --> 01:38:44,880
this is interesting in a previous

2393
01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:48,159
interview he said he had located

2394
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:49,520
footage

2395
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,480
and images and in this interview he says

2396
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,960
that he is aware of so i think we have

2397
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:57,040
to be careful with expectations and it

2398
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,560
appears to me

2399
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,480
from all that i have seen and heard from

2400
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:02,400
various of his interviews and by the way

2401
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,880
i've uh digested all of them so you

2402
01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:06,639
don't have to

2403
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:09,280
in none of the recent interviews uh

2404
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:12,400
about this upcoming film did he say that

2405
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:14,800
he had the footage got the footage and

2406
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:17,600
the images and it's in the film

2407
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:20,480
uh he sort of seems to indicate and my

2408
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:24,400
best read of this situation is that

2409
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:25,520
the

2410
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:29,440
film coming out is going to be

2411
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:31,440
a retelling of the story with new

2412
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,159
witnesses never before heard from

2413
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:36,159
and new on the record on camera

2414
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:38,560
interviews and more evidence of the

2415
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:41,600
original incident in brazil

2416
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:44,560
but it appears to me uh from his various

2417
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:47,760
statements that he is now saying that

2418
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:50,080
the material was taken back to the

2419
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:51,600
united states

2420
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:54,960
the entities if alive whether alive or

2421
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:58,080
dead may have been taken back

2422
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,280
or taken by the united states

2423
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,520
and he has located

2424
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:05,040
i'm not sure what that means does that

2425
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,840
mean

2426
01:40:09,830 --> 01:40:07,679
that he has a witness that told him

2427
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:09,840
there's footage there's there's

2428
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:12,000
biological samples

2429
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:15,360
uh there's crash debris samples

2430
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:18,480
uh there's film there's images of the

2431
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:20,080
creatures

2432
01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,800
um and if so is that a credible source

2433
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:24,719
that we should trust

2434
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,280
uh and is this sort of going to be a

2435
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:29,920
lead up or a kick the can this is

2436
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:31,679
another problem that i have with these

2437
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,239
ufo stories it's always tantalizing

2438
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,199
maybe smoking gun proof this may be

2439
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:40,080
smoking gun proof it's very tantalizing

2440
01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:42,880
but we don't have it just yet

2441
01:40:49,109 --> 01:40:46,719
and if he is hyping this film by saying

2442
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:49,119
that he has

2443
01:40:56,790 --> 01:40:55,189
and images and biological samples and

2444
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:56,800
and you know

2445
01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,000
i don't know

2446
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:00,719
spaceship samples from the crash

2447
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:02,800
but it's not in the film

2448
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:04,960
to me that's this is sort of uh he

2449
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:06,560
should have kept that to himself until

2450
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,960
he has the actual evidence famously

2451
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:10,560
stephen greenstreet

2452
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:12,960
of the new york post recently posted

2453
01:41:15,910 --> 01:41:14,560
something on twitter something to the

2454
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:15,920
effect of

2455
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,639
uh you know

2456
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:20,880
there's evidence but you can't see it

2457
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:21,679
yet

2458
01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:24,080
and then stephen greenstreet wrote

2459
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:26,000
there is no evidence

2460
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:29,199
and i think in most of these cases

2461
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:30,880
this is true

2462
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:33,280
now uh

2463
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:36,159
if this so-called footage he has quote

2464
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:40,320
located or quote become aware of

2465
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:43,040
is never shown in the film

2466
01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:44,960
then i do have sort of a problem with

2467
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:47,040
him even mentioning it he's trying to

2468
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:48,880
sell a film here

2469
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:51,119
and it's easy to conflate and i'm

2470
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:53,040
disappointed in this

2471
01:41:57,990 --> 01:41:54,880
podcast host

2472
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:58,000
because he doesn't get any there's no

2473
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:00,080
you know pushback here there's no

2474
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:01,840
clarification

2475
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:03,760
is the footage in the film and i'm

2476
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:06,719
assuming it's not because this guy

2477
01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:08,239
doing the interview

2478
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:10,159
said earlier in the interview that he

2479
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:11,520
saw the film

2480
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,159
so james fox starts talking about he's

2481
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:17,280
located or he i'm sorry he's aware of

2482
01:42:22,149 --> 01:42:19,840
footage of the creatures and images of

2483
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:22,159
the creatures and biological samples and

2484
01:42:25,669 --> 01:42:23,840
crash materials

2485
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:25,679
i would think that if the guy saw that

2486
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:28,480
in the movie he would talk about it

2487
01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:30,800
you know or james fox would acknowledge

2488
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,719
that it's in the film

2489
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:34,239
so

2490
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:36,560
this is where things get murky

2491
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:39,280
is james fox over promising and under

2492
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:42,800
delivering in order to sell a film

2493
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:45,119
if he's making these statements that he

2494
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:46,320
is

2495
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,280
you know

2496
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:49,199
located footage

2497
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:52,159
that he is aware of footage while he's

2498
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:54,080
trying to sell this movie

2499
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,239
to viewers and then none of that is in

2500
01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:57,520
the movie

2501
01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:59,360
i have a real problem with that and this

2502
01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:00,560
may be

2503
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,800
another big bluff

2504
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:05,199
and what will happen is he'll make tons

2505
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:07,040
of money from this film

2506
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:09,679
and then he'll do the cosmic shuffle

2507
01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:11,199
and shuffle off

2508
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:12,880
and then people

2509
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:15,040
who remember this will keep asking him

2510
01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:16,560
where's the footage is there going to be

2511
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,400
a part two did you get the footage do

2512
01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:20,560
you have the rights to the footage

2513
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:21,920
where's the footage that you kept

2514
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:24,719
talking about while you were actively

2515
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,080
doing media spots to promote this film

2516
01:43:31,109 --> 01:43:30,080
it's not in the film if it's not in the

2517
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:31,119
film

2518
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:33,840
this is extremely problematic for me and

2519
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:35,280
you heard him say he's putting his

2520
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:37,520
reputation on the line here a lot of

2521
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,199
people think that he jumped the shark

2522
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,840
here and and he's gone too far

2523
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,000
over promising and under delivering it's

2524
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:45,679
not just me that has made this

2525
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:47,199
observation

2526
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:48,639
is it ethical

2527
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:51,440
or is it moral to start talking about

2528
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:54,480
i have located film of these creatures i

2529
01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:57,040
have i'm aware of film of these

2530
01:44:01,830 --> 01:43:58,239
creatures

2531
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:01,840
the film that you're trying to sell

2532
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:03,920
people actively right now

2533
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:06,159
is this a case of over promising and

2534
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:07,520
under delivering let me know what you

2535
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,800
think in the live chat is this a case

2536
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,320
is he just going to kick the can and

2537
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:14,960
we're never going to see the footage

2538
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,360
it kind of ruins what may be a good

2539
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:19,600
project you know if

2540
01:44:24,310 --> 01:44:22,480
if i plop down my 20 or whatever it

2541
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:24,320
costs to see this film

2542
01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:26,159
and there's no footage there's nothing

2543
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:28,239
about biological samples there's no

2544
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,360
images actual images

2545
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:33,440
but he keeps talking about it while he's

2546
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:35,520
promoting the film

2547
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:38,080
i have a problem with that again this

2548
01:44:41,750 --> 01:44:39,440
that would be

2549
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:41,760
extremely over promising and under

2550
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:43,600
delivering but you see how it gets murky

2551
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:46,639
because later he could say well i i

2552
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,800
located the footage after i was finished

2553
01:44:53,109 --> 01:44:50,320
the film or

2554
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:53,119
i became aware of the footage after i

2555
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:55,360
located the film then don't mention it

2556
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:57,199
it's not in the film it's not relevant

2557
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:59,840
here you're trying to sell the film this

2558
01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:01,520
could be considered

2559
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:02,960
uh you know

2560
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,040
kind of slimy to some people if he

2561
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:07,119
doesn't actually have footage

2562
01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:09,119
and and again with the wording it's

2563
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,920
almost as if it's all these statements

2564
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:14,719
he's making are carefully worded

2565
01:45:17,990 --> 01:45:16,400
in order to be able to walk it back or

2566
01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:18,000
explain it away

2567
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:21,199
when we get oh he's he's over promising

2568
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,560
then we're going to get to the under

2569
01:45:26,470 --> 01:45:24,400
delivering and then we're going to get

2570
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:26,480
to the big let down

2571
01:45:30,149 --> 01:45:27,600
so

2572
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:30,159
by the time the big letdown

2573
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:32,080
comes

2574
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:33,440
because of his carefully worded

2575
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:38,550
he will be able to sort of slither out

2576
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:40,080
of the situation

2577
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:42,880
in various ways so

2578
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:45,679
this is extremely problematic for me

2579
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:49,520
and you know i wonder is is james fox

2580
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:51,520
gonna wind up

2581
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:52,880
out of my

2582
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:55,840
white gray basket you know i thought

2583
01:46:00,390 --> 01:45:57,440
he's one of the good guys

2584
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:00,400
but if no footage that he keeps talking

2585
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:02,880
about in these media appearances no

2586
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:05,360
images no biological samples ever

2587
01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:07,760
materializes and he's just

2588
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,840
talking that way to hype up the film

2589
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:11,600
that doesn't contain any of that

2590
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:13,920
evidence or proof

2591
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:16,800
that is over promising that is under

2592
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:19,840
delivering and this will become

2593
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:22,400
just another in a long line of big

2594
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:23,679
bluffs

2595
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:27,119
of people selling ufo stories because

2596
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:28,880
and i want to know if there are any

2597
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:30,800
americans out there that were involved

2598
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:32,320
in this case in fact if there's any of

2599
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:35,760
them listening to this podcast right now

2600
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,840
please reach out

2601
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:39,760
they can get in touch with you or they

2602
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:42,560
can email me at james

2603
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:44,880
c as in charlie fox

2604
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:47,199
james c fox

2605
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:48,639
gmail.com

2606
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:49,440
and

2607
01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:55,350
what are the obstacles for you

2608
01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:57,360
in order to get your hands

2609
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:59,760
on footage of something like this or

2610
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:01,199
photos or something like this like what

2611
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:03,360
are the biggest obstacles what are the

2612
01:47:06,629 --> 01:47:05,199
what do the people that have them have

2613
01:47:09,830 --> 01:47:06,639
to lose

2614
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:09,840
the people unfortunately

2615
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:14,950
are terrified

2616
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:15,679
uh

2617
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:18,000
people that

2618
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:19,440
um

2619
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:23,520
the the the the higher the stakes like

2620
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:25,280
the

2621
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:28,239
pretty much every case i've ever

2622
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:30,880
investigated you have

2623
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:36,149
people that are just legitimately scared

2624
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:39,119
and the more better evidence they have

2625
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:39,840
the

2626
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,280
men in suits come and intimidate her and

2627
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:49,679
i absolutely believed her

2628
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:51,199
no question

2629
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:53,920
um the guy that watched it crash had men

2630
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:56,000
in suits come up to him and intimidate

2631
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:57,840
him scared him

2632
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,600
again we get the stories of the men in

2633
01:48:03,189 --> 01:48:01,199
black but i'm wondering if he has

2634
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:03,199
corroborating evidence

2635
01:48:08,709 --> 01:48:06,480
or is this just witness testimony

2636
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:08,719
spooked him

2637
01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:10,560
people with

2638
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:13,040
photographic or videotaped evidence are

2639
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:16,159
are terrified i can't emphasize that

2640
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:17,679
enough

2641
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:18,800
let's just

2642
01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:21,520
speak hypothetically for a moment okay

2643
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:25,040
obviously i'm covering this case

2644
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:27,679
clearly i want to

2645
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:28,960
uncover

2646
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:31,119
photographic videotaped evidence i mean

2647
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:33,199
come on man it's obvious

2648
01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:34,880
if you don't think i'm going after that

2649
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:37,360
then you need to re readjust your

2650
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:38,719
thinking

2651
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:41,520
um there's nothing it's the holy grail

2652
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:42,480
right

2653
01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:43,679
uh

2654
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,560
how do you execute let's just say

2655
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:49,199
hypothetically that you did

2656
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:52,000
identify someone with

2657
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:54,000
evidence like that

2658
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:55,760
and you offer them

2659
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:58,960
a significant con compensation for it

2660
01:49:02,470 --> 01:49:00,880
uh either they don't want

2661
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:02,480
they're too they're too scared there's

2662
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:04,400
no money amount of money well let's just

2663
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,360
say they

2664
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:07,440
they do agree to take

2665
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:08,880
money

2666
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:10,639
how do you get a hundred grand or 200

2667
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:13,360
grand cash

2668
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,599
into brazil

2669
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:17,520
this i have a real problem with because

2670
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,599
now it appears you know it's almost as

2671
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:21,679
if he's putting a sign out like do you

2672
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,159
have the footage of the aliens i'll give

2673
01:49:27,589 --> 01:49:26,159
you a hundred thousand dollars for it

2674
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:27,599
and it would

2675
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,360
it would make good business sense for

2676
01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:31,280
him to offer that amount of money

2677
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,639
because

2678
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,800
whatever footage that he obtained

2679
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:36,480
whether it was real or fake he could

2680
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:39,119
likely make millions of dollars from

2681
01:49:42,310 --> 01:49:40,320
before

2682
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:42,320
you know if it was fake footage that was

2683
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:44,800
revealed or whatever

2684
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:47,119
you're talking about brazil it was very

2685
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,560
poor country

2686
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:50,639
everybody there is well below the

2687
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:53,920
poverty line according to you know

2688
01:49:58,390 --> 01:49:56,960
american standards would would somebody

2689
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:58,400
for a hundred thousand dollars down

2690
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,639
there not make a fake alien creature and

2691
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:02,159
make a fake video

2692
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,840
to sell to him

2693
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:05,599
because he so desperately wants that

2694
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,199
footage that he would be willing to

2695
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:09,520
believe that it's real

2696
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,560
and again

2697
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,560
what we get here is

2698
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:15,360
almost like a setup for when the big

2699
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:18,320
letdown comes he's got an excuse well i

2700
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:19,679
couldn't get the hundred thousand

2701
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,599
dollars into brazil

2702
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:24,320
so i wasn't able to procure the footage

2703
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:25,119
but

2704
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:27,280
i know that people have that footage

2705
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,000
trust me dude you know we're going to

2706
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:33,599
get to trust me dude now it it i begin

2707
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,400
to worry here and it also seems clear

2708
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:39,040
that since the interviewer who

2709
01:50:42,629 --> 01:50:41,199
apparently has seen the film is asking

2710
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:42,639
him what do you what what are the

2711
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,520
obstacles to getting the footage nobody

2712
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:47,280
has said that this footage is in the

2713
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:48,239
film

2714
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:50,159
and again this is very problematic

2715
01:50:54,229 --> 01:50:51,840
because he keeps talking about having

2716
01:50:56,709 --> 01:50:54,239
located people with the footage

2717
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:56,719
you know or the images or the biological

2718
01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:58,800
materials but

2719
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:01,599
i i would assume that this interviewer

2720
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:03,440
and and i have listened to this entire

2721
01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:05,840
thing and every media interview he has

2722
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:07,440
given in the past

2723
01:51:11,589 --> 01:51:09,760
several weeks leading up to the release

2724
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:11,599
of this film while he's promoting the

2725
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,800
film

2726
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:15,440
in every interview he starts with these

2727
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,480
statements that he may have procured the

2728
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:20,480
footage he you know

2729
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:24,880
uh has located people with the footage

2730
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:27,360
but nobody talks about the footage being

2731
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:28,719
in the film

2732
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:31,920
so i'm starting to get a sense of that

2733
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:34,400
this is going to be one big letdown and

2734
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:35,840
by the way

2735
01:51:39,910 --> 01:51:38,639
for everyone but certainly for me

2736
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:39,920
because

2737
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:42,080
many of you know this there are so few

2738
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:43,840
people ask me all the time well stephen

2739
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:45,760
who do you think is credible there's so

2740
01:51:50,229 --> 01:51:47,360
many frauds that you cover who do you

2741
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:50,239
think is credible up until now

2742
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:53,040
i have always thought that james fox was

2743
01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:54,719
at least

2744
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,840
mostly credible one of the good guys

2745
01:52:04,629 --> 01:51:59,119
and

2746
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:04,639
footage no images no biological samples

2747
01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:07,040
just again a bunch of people telling

2748
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:09,760
stories and to be clear

2749
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:11,840
i believe there is

2750
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,719
there is value in witness testimony but

2751
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:17,199
when you're going on a media tour to

2752
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,280
promote a film that you just made that's

2753
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:21,679
about to come out and you keep making

2754
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:22,560
these

2755
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,920
carefully worded statements like

2756
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:27,760
he is

2757
01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:30,719
in all of these appearances

2758
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:31,679
i

2759
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:38,000
because

2760
01:52:43,270 --> 01:52:40,000
from everything that i have seen and

2761
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:43,280
witnessed of mr james fox in the past

2762
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:45,280
several weeks now

2763
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:48,320
it appears that we are once again going

2764
01:52:54,149 --> 01:52:49,360
to see

2765
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:54,159
the over hype and the under delivering

2766
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:55,199
and

2767
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:57,840
i'm certain that after the film people

2768
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,239
will start to ask mr james fox what

2769
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:02,480
about all that footage that you claimed

2770
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,440
that you

2771
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,119
located or

2772
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:07,520
that you became aware of and what about

2773
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:09,920
the images and

2774
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:12,480
and he's going to walk it back

2775
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:14,719
but by the time that big disappointment

2776
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:15,840
comes

2777
01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:18,880
mr james fox will be sitting

2778
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:21,199
on a mountain of money

2779
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:23,679
he will make a mountain of money from

2780
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:26,000
this movie especially when he keeps

2781
01:53:31,510 --> 01:53:28,880
dropping these little nuggets like well

2782
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:31,520
i located footage of the creatures

2783
01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:33,840
well i located images of the of the

2784
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:35,360
creatures

2785
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,560
um

2786
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:38,159
and and again

2787
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:39,920
one of the main reasons i'm going to be

2788
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:41,920
extremely disappointed if this is the

2789
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:44,239
case and i believe it's going to be

2790
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:45,840
i'll tell you that right now that's my

2791
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:48,719
prediction we're going to see no footage

2792
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:51,040
in the film we're going to see no images

2793
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:53,360
actual images in the film we're going to

2794
01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:56,239
see no biological samples what we're

2795
01:54:03,270 --> 01:53:58,320
largely going to see is him interviewing

2796
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:05,750
and i'm sorry that's just not enough for

2797
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:07,920
me at this point especially with the

2798
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:08,880
hype

2799
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:10,960
surrounding this while he keeps talking

2800
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:13,760
about locating footage of the creatures

2801
01:54:20,470 --> 01:54:16,800
locating images of the creatures

2802
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:20,480
and to be clear i hope i'm wrong because

2803
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:22,880
there are so few people left that i

2804
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:25,440
think have some credibility

2805
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:27,280
doing this work

2806
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:28,400
uh

2807
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,800
that i don't want to see another

2808
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:32,239
you know

2809
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:34,560
i don't want to see another domino fall

2810
01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:36,560
i just don't want to see another domino

2811
01:54:41,910 --> 01:54:38,560
fall i have

2812
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,920
so few things left even in my gray

2813
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:44,080
basket at this point

2814
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:47,040
that this is it's disheartening and it's

2815
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:50,320
disappointing if this is going to be the

2816
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,320
route that this goes

2817
01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:54,239
uh you can't even take more than 10

2818
01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:55,599
grand with them asking you questions

2819
01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:57,280
they're watching you

2820
01:55:01,270 --> 01:54:59,599
i know the military base is watching me

2821
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:01,280
they've already called all around to

2822
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:02,800
half the witnesses i've talked to

2823
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:04,719
senator bitcoin

2824
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:06,639
yeah

2825
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:11,280
some of the alternative currency but but

2826
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:12,639
you know how do you do the handoff how

2827
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,000
do you get it out of the country do you

2828
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,239
upload it to a server like

2829
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:19,040
this is all logistical things that

2830
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:21,040
uh and and then you have people that are

2831
01:55:25,750 --> 01:55:24,000
just terrified i mean look at eric lopes

2832
01:55:28,550 --> 01:55:25,760
the driver of the car

2833
01:55:30,070 --> 01:55:28,560
he's been in hiding for 26 years

2834
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:30,080
he threatened to shoot everybody when we

2835
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:31,599
got to his property

2836
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:33,280
he's not messing around what did they

2837
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:34,480
tell him

2838
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:35,440
right like

2839
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:37,599
you know is it not just

2840
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,080
threatening him but his family

2841
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,480
like what would get a guy

2842
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:44,320
to literally

2843
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:45,920
say he was going to shoot every he

2844
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:47,920
wouldn't even give a statement

2845
01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:50,400
to the family

2846
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:53,760
of his buddy was in the passenger seat

2847
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:55,920
like think about that for a minute he

2848
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:58,239
wouldn't give a statement

2849
01:56:02,709 --> 01:56:01,360
to the family of his buddy who died

2850
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,719
after

2851
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:04,080
holding that

2852
01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:10,229
yeah um

2853
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:14,310
i i don't know what else to say here

2854
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:15,520
we're going to only listen to a few more

2855
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:17,360
what's on earth like

2856
01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:19,760
he grew up those two grew up together

2857
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:21,280
they were good friends

2858
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:26,149
you know

2859
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:27,679
i mean isn't that

2860
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,760
so you just kind of have to

2861
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:31,679
you know fill in the blanks a little bit

2862
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:34,400
it's not easy it's not easy

2863
01:56:38,470 --> 01:56:36,880
going after you know

2864
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,480
videotape photography that stuff has a

2865
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:40,639
weird way of disappearing

2866
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,599
um

2867
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:44,080
it's horrible i know it's like i mean

2868
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:45,920
there's nobody on the planet probably

2869
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,840
trying harder than i am yeah but i mean

2870
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:49,920
no civilian that i could think of

2871
01:56:53,990 --> 01:56:53,119
i'm sure it's almost 10 24 7.

2872
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:54,000
you know

2873
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:56,960
and i i look

2874
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:59,360
i'll be incredibly satisfied

2875
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,440
if our film comes out

2876
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:03,679
and it triggers other evidence and

2877
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,599
testimony to come forward right and that

2878
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:07,040
maybe that's part of another project

2879
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:09,040
that somebody else does or i do i don't

2880
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:12,800
really care i want it out very horse

2881
01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:14,880
of course

2882
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,920
we know

2883
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:17,440
there's that kind of evidence out there

2884
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:20,000
we know that there we go so oh that

2885
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:22,239
might be part of another project

2886
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:23,920
so there is it's pretty much

2887
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:25,920
confirmation from james fox right here

2888
01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:28,480
that there is no footage and of course

2889
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:31,520
picks uh is in the in the live chat

2890
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:33,280
gotta slag me well he's not wrong

2891
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:35,360
that'll be part of part two

2892
01:57:39,750 --> 01:57:37,199
yeah after he's already got your money

2893
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,760
he may produce a part two with this

2894
01:57:43,109 --> 01:57:41,520
alleged footage and by the way somebody

2895
01:57:45,669 --> 01:57:43,119
in the live chat said it was the girl's

2896
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:45,679
mother who he heard there's footage from

2897
01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:48,080
and he believes her well that's great

2898
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:50,080
but maybe you should get the footage and

2899
01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:51,679
put it in the film that you're trying to

2900
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,950
and not kick the can right

2901
01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:58,639
one one

2902
01:58:02,870 --> 01:57:59,760
massive

2903
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:02,880
pile of me of money that you could you

2904
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,440
know ski down is not enough for him he's

2905
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:07,599
got to split it into two parts

2906
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:09,440
hype up the footage and then do a part

2907
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:10,239
two

2908
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:13,360
if there is indeed footage

2909
01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:14,960
i have a problem with this i have a

2910
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,320
problem with this it's deceptive

2911
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:17,599
marketing

2912
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:20,080
now john mack the harvard psychiatrist

2913
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:21,920
all right that's it we're done we made

2914
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:23,840
it to the end friends

2915
01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:26,320
and uh here's what we're gonna do we are

2916
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,960
going to check in with the

2917
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,560
super chats for those unaware there's a

2918
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:32,239
few ways that you can support us and one

2919
01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:34,080
way is that money button down there you

2920
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:36,800
can throw money at us and uh that

2921
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:38,639
supports our show and keeps us doing

2922
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:42,800
this uh covering this content

2923
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,639
uh yes so we have several people who

2924
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:48,960
have been kind and generous enough to

2925
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:52,639
throw a few bucks in our hat and uh help

2926
01:58:58,550 --> 01:58:55,840
us to keep doing this work we will

2927
01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:58,560
check in with the

2928
01:59:04,229 --> 01:59:01,119
the way

2929
01:59:06,310 --> 01:59:04,239
we read and thank every single super

2930
01:59:08,629 --> 01:59:06,320
chatter uh

2931
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:08,639
so tonight we had lord ludacris with a

2932
01:59:13,589 --> 01:59:11,360
kind of generous 499.

2933
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:13,599
he says great show what happened to the

2934
01:59:15,750 --> 01:59:14,800
craft that

2935
01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:15,760
came

2936
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,000
it with the aliens keep up the great

2937
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:22,560
work yes to my knowledge lord ludacris

2938
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:24,159
there is no picture

2939
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:25,520
he says

2940
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:27,199
pictures exist

2941
01:59:32,709 --> 01:59:30,400
videos exist biological samples exist

2942
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:34,229
uh we don't

2943
01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:36,320
apparently it's not in the film that

2944
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:39,280
he's hyping here here

2945
01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:42,880
and doing uh all these media appearances

2946
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:44,800
to sell the film

2947
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:47,280
ufo john doe cotton generous 499 says

2948
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:49,280
that's been bugging that's me bugging

2949
01:59:54,629 --> 01:59:51,760
you on ariel but that's from

2950
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:54,639
randall nickerson yes i i appreciate

2951
01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:56,880
that you uh i want to see it myself so

2952
02:00:01,109 --> 01:59:58,800
we are going to do that

2953
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:01,119
and and also ufo john dale with kind

2954
02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:02,960
generous dollar 99 says john mack

2955
02:00:06,390 --> 02:00:04,880
interviewed the girls the video is

2956
02:00:08,149 --> 02:00:06,400
online

2957
02:00:09,589 --> 02:00:08,159
great well we thank everybody for their

2958
02:00:12,149 --> 02:00:09,599
kindness their generosity and the

2959
02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:12,159
support of uh our kind and generous

2960
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,520
benefactors who help us to continue

2961
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:17,119
continue this

2962
02:00:20,709 --> 02:00:19,040
watch the film

2963
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:20,719
for god's sake the footage is something

2964
02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:23,119
he hasn't gotten yet relating to craft

2965
02:00:28,470 --> 02:00:26,239
move to the us that is absurd

2966
02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:28,480
uh it picks you don't know what you're

2967
02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:30,560
talking about as usual

2968
02:00:34,790 --> 02:00:32,719
uh i don't have

2969
02:00:37,109 --> 02:00:34,800
i'm not on my usual computer where i

2970
02:00:40,310 --> 02:00:37,119
have a database but i can get back to

2971
02:00:42,149 --> 02:00:40,320
you there is verified reports and

2972
02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:42,159
stories of

2973
02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:43,920
crash retrievals that took place in

2974
02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:45,520
mexico and south america where the

2975
02:00:49,109 --> 02:00:47,440
united states government came in

2976
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:49,119
according to witnesses and took the

2977
02:00:53,990 --> 02:00:50,560
material back

2978
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:54,000
according to james fox

2979
02:00:57,910 --> 02:00:56,080
he believes that the material was taken

2980
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,920
to the united states and that's where it

2981
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:59,199
ended up

2982
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,400
uh

2983
02:01:06,070 --> 02:01:02,560
richard warrener is here and says it's a

2984
02:01:06,830 --> 02:01:06,080
gravy train ride yes apparently it is

2985
02:01:09,430 --> 02:01:06,840
so

2986
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:09,440
um what do you guys think in the live

2987
02:01:12,709 --> 02:01:11,679
chat um

2988
02:01:15,350 --> 02:01:12,719
is it

2989
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:15,360
morally and ethically okay

2990
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,080
to

2991
02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:18,719
uh be throwing these sound bites around

2992
02:01:23,350 --> 02:01:21,520
that he's located footage he's located

2993
02:01:24,149 --> 02:01:23,360
images but it's none of that is in the

2994
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:24,159
film

2995
02:01:27,910 --> 02:01:26,400
that you're currently

2996
02:01:29,109 --> 02:01:27,920
going to be

2997
02:01:31,510 --> 02:01:29,119
uh

2998
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,520
selling

2999
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:33,760
pics i'm not going to argue with you

3000
02:01:40,229 --> 02:01:37,040
it's a famous ufo crash case that took

3001
02:01:43,270 --> 02:01:40,239
place in mexico where people died and

3002
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:43,280
the whole story revolves around mexican

3003
02:01:47,830 --> 02:01:45,040
military

3004
02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:47,840
went to the crash retrieval site and

3005
02:01:53,510 --> 02:01:51,360
literally died from exposure to whatever

3006
02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:53,520
the biological entities and then the

3007
02:01:57,990 --> 02:01:55,360
united states government came in and

3008
02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:58,000
took the material it's a famous case and

3009
02:02:05,350 --> 02:01:59,760
if you're going to deny that happen then

3010
02:02:09,189 --> 02:02:07,109
i agree with pick suggestion watch the

3011
02:02:11,109 --> 02:02:09,199
film go into it without expectations and

3012
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:11,119
you won't be disappointed or you'll be

3013
02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:13,440
pleasantly surprised well yes we're

3014
02:02:18,390 --> 02:02:16,080
gonna do that and we'll do a full review

3015
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:18,400
but i thought it important first to talk

3016
02:02:20,629 --> 02:02:19,599
about

3017
02:02:22,629 --> 02:02:20,639
this

3018
02:02:24,470 --> 02:02:22,639
recent trend walter bosley if you

3019
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:24,480
haven't noticed there's been a huge

3020
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:26,719
recent trend of people

3021
02:02:30,229 --> 02:02:29,280
producing projects they make money from

3022
02:02:32,870 --> 02:02:30,239
where

3023
02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:32,880
they over promise and then they under

3024
02:02:38,629 --> 02:02:34,320
deliver

3025
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:38,639
we've seen ross colthardt do this

3026
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:41,920
we've seen uh many many people

3027
02:02:46,550 --> 02:02:44,560
over promise and under deliver and that

3028
02:02:49,510 --> 02:02:46,560
leads to the big let down

3029
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:49,520
and i'm sure anybody who has been

3030
02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:50,400
uh

3031
02:02:56,709 --> 02:02:53,440
digesting let's just say digesting ufo

3032
02:02:59,350 --> 02:02:56,719
material for a long period of time is

3033
02:03:00,709 --> 02:02:59,360
familiar with the big let down

3034
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:00,719
we get

3035
02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:02,800
super hyped up this is going to be

3036
02:03:05,109 --> 02:03:03,760
ground

3037
02:03:06,629 --> 02:03:05,119
just going to be

3038
02:03:08,550 --> 02:03:06,639
earth changing this is going to be

3039
02:03:11,830 --> 02:03:08,560
ground breaking new information

3040
02:03:14,470 --> 02:03:11,840
conclusive proof of alien technology

3041
02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:14,480
very you know and this man confirms it

3042
02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:17,440
all cut to michio kaku and none of that

3043
02:03:22,709 --> 02:03:19,520
[\h__\h] is true

3044
02:03:24,149 --> 02:03:22,719
this is the way this whole thing works

3045
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:24,159
these people

3046
02:03:30,310 --> 02:03:26,880
and and by the way if i'm being unfair

3047
02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:30,320
i i will report back after watching the

3048
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:32,880
entire film if i'm being unfair then

3049
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:35,280
i'll apologize for it but

3050
02:03:40,950 --> 02:03:38,080
we have seen this so many times this

3051
02:03:43,990 --> 02:03:40,960
over promise under deliver the big

3052
02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:44,000
letdown it goes in these cycles

3053
02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:46,560
and after this james fox film

3054
02:03:50,709 --> 02:03:49,119
there will be you know we just saw this

3055
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:50,719
exact thing

3056
02:03:57,270 --> 02:03:53,599
with ross colthardt promising everybody

3057
02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:57,280
in trailers that he had quote conclusive

3058
02:04:02,069 --> 02:04:00,159
proof of alien technology

3059
02:04:06,470 --> 02:04:02,079
and this man confirms it all and then

3060
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:08,870
none of that is true of his project

3061
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:11,520
there was no conclusive proof in fact in

3062
02:04:17,990 --> 02:04:14,480
that case the analysis of the stuff he

3063
02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:18,000
thinks might might be alien metals

3064
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:20,320
uh it didn't even begin yet by gary

3065
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:23,440
nolan at the time that he put out the

3066
02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:25,679
trailer and the film

3067
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:26,960
so

3068
02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:30,400
we get this vicious cycle of people over

3069
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:31,599
promising

3070
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:33,760
they under deliver we get the big

3071
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:37,280
letdown rinse and repeat okay so right

3072
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:40,560
after this james fox thing there will be

3073
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:43,280
another person that's gonna come along

3074
02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:45,760
and they will over promise and they will

3075
02:04:51,189 --> 02:04:48,079
under deliver and that will lead us to

3076
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:51,199
another big letdown are we getting are

3077
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:53,599
we seeing this cycle this rinse and

3078
02:04:57,350 --> 02:04:56,320
repeat cycle that we have all

3079
02:04:59,830 --> 02:04:57,360
witnessed

3080
02:05:01,189 --> 02:04:59,840
many many times and we can talk about

3081
02:05:06,470 --> 02:05:01,199
this if you have any comments or

3082
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:08,390
this is a great question

3083
02:05:15,669 --> 02:05:12,159
marcus lamper stephen who over delivered

3084
02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:15,679
or delivered in the history of ufology

3085
02:05:21,189 --> 02:05:18,880
good point i suppose

3086
02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:21,199
you know i think that some people

3087
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:23,679
managed expectations for people and

3088
02:05:30,629 --> 02:05:27,280
didn't overhype things you know

3089
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:30,639
or maybe i'm remembering fondly a better

3090
02:05:35,270 --> 02:05:33,280
time where people

3091
02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:35,280
uh didn't do the

3092
02:05:40,149 --> 02:05:37,360
the rinse and repeat cycle of over

3093
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:40,159
promise utter deliver the big let down

3094
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:42,560
but it seems to me that all of us have

3095
02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:43,679
been through

3096
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:46,239
the over promising the under delivering

3097
02:05:50,149 --> 02:05:47,920
and the big let down we've seen it with

3098
02:05:52,870 --> 02:05:50,159
the alien autopsy right

3099
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:52,880
we've seen it with uh jeremy corbell's

3100
02:05:56,310 --> 02:05:55,199
bob lazar documentary he over promised

3101
02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:56,320
oh there's gonna be all this new

3102
02:06:00,149 --> 02:05:58,480
evidence no there's a picture of a hand

3103
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,159
scanner that was in close encounters

3104
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:02,480
that's it that's the only new thing that

3105
02:06:07,270 --> 02:06:04,960
that jeremy corbell was able to pull up

3106
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:07,280
after 30 years of people making millions

3107
02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:09,440
of dollars on the bob lazar garbage

3108
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,159
fairy tale story you know

3109
02:06:16,390 --> 02:06:14,960
uh we get the anaconda humanoid that was

3110
02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:16,400
over

3111
02:06:24,709 --> 02:06:22,079
delivering

3112
02:06:26,310 --> 02:06:24,719
oh sorry i know we hyped this up for

3113
02:06:28,149 --> 02:06:26,320
like a year claiming that this thing was

3114
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:28,159
an alien but it turns out

3115
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:30,239
it's just a deformed fetus and we

3116
02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:31,920
couldn't wait a month to get the test

3117
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:34,719
results from gary nolan instead we

3118
02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:36,960
hurried the the documentary into

3119
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:39,040
production before the results came back

3120
02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:40,960
so that we could make those millions

3121
02:06:45,990 --> 02:06:43,199
before the truth that this thing was

3122
02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:46,000
wasn't an alien actually came out oh

3123
02:06:51,510 --> 02:06:49,119
[\h__\h] the big letdown again the big

3124
02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:51,520
letdown

3125
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:53,520
and uh you know i'm afraid that we're

3126
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:55,840
going to get the big letdown again

3127
02:07:03,109 --> 02:06:59,840
wreaking havoc 215. the same rules keep

3128
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:03,119
getting fooled yeah uh it

3129
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:05,920
it would appear that that is the case

3130
02:07:11,030 --> 02:07:08,320
right it would appear that that is the

3131
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:11,040
case did i miss that i did i missed a

3132
02:07:14,069 --> 02:07:12,800
super chat i apologize so anthony

3133
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:14,079
peterson with a kind of generous two

3134
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:15,280
dollars says

3135
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:16,400
like to see

3136
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:21,360
are valid i think this case is valid but

3137
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:23,280
what if you if you're over

3138
02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:25,679
hyping over promising and you're going

3139
02:07:32,470 --> 02:07:28,159
to under deliver then it's going to be

3140
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:32,480
underwhelming for people right

3141
02:07:38,229 --> 02:07:34,800
riley raves as truth seekers is marilyn

3142
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:38,239
manson and neo's incest baby

3143
02:07:43,109 --> 02:07:40,079
i can either confirm or deny those

3144
02:07:48,310 --> 02:07:43,119
rumors riley rage and i refuse to uh

3145
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:51,030
was the mexico incident possibly the u.s

3146
02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:53,440
missile and the ufo story was a cover

3147
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:56,159
yes you may be correct but

3148
02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:58,079
walter bosley i am aware of multiple

3149
02:08:01,510 --> 02:08:00,320
stories of crash retrievals in other

3150
02:08:03,030 --> 02:08:01,520
countries

3151
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:03,040
where the initial

3152
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:05,199
crash retrieval was handled by local

3153
02:08:08,870 --> 02:08:06,960
officials and then the united states

3154
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:08,880
swooped in and grabbed it there's a case

3155
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:11,280
in africa a case in mexico and i'm sure

3156
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:12,880
there's a case in south america or

3157
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:15,360
several cases in south america where i

3158
02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:16,800
have heard that whether those stories

3159
02:08:21,350 --> 02:08:19,599
are true or not i'm not sure but

3160
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:21,360
sometimes these things

3161
02:08:25,270 --> 02:08:23,599
the fact that if crash retrievals happen

3162
02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:25,280
in another country the united states

3163
02:08:29,990 --> 02:08:27,440
swoops in and grabs it becomes an

3164
02:08:31,510 --> 02:08:30,000
accepted part of ufo mythology and then

3165
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:31,520
people repeat it

3166
02:08:34,149 --> 02:08:33,199
kind of like in this case i've never

3167
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:34,159
heard

3168
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:36,639
until the james fox

3169
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,280
uh film here that the united states

3170
02:08:43,109 --> 02:08:42,000
swooped in and took those aliens and and

3171
02:08:45,990 --> 02:08:43,119
the crash

3172
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:46,000
uh material ever i've never heard that

3173
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:47,599
the united that it went to the united

3174
02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:48,480
states

3175
02:08:53,669 --> 02:08:51,440
the story sort of ended at the hospital

3176
02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:53,679
and then nobody knew where the

3177
02:08:57,189 --> 02:08:55,360
where any of the stuff went

3178
02:08:58,709 --> 02:08:57,199
james fox is sort of

3179
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:58,719
you know

3180
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:00,320
i guess giving us

3181
02:09:05,750 --> 02:09:03,119
uh the rest of the story if it is true

3182
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:05,760
that that the materials he believes the

3183
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:08,000
materials and the aliens whether alive

3184
02:09:11,270 --> 02:09:09,040
or dead

3185
02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:11,280
the biological samples all that material

3186
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:13,040
went to the united states somewhere

3187
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:13,920
right

3188
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:18,950
it's important to be wise enough to

3189
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:20,719
understand to listen to those that

3190
02:09:31,030 --> 02:09:29,270
walter bosley well i pissed off walter

3191
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:31,040
bosley apparently that's not hard to do

3192
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:33,520
lately he says oh i know that stephen

3193
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:35,520
please yes well that's all i'm trying to

3194
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:37,599
say is walter bosley is that it's almost

3195
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:40,400
an accepted part of ufo ufo mythology at

3196
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,560
this point that when a crash retrieval

3197
02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:44,400
happens in another country

3198
02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:46,880
the uh

3199
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:48,239
you know the united states government

3200
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:50,000
and the men in black from the us go and

3201
02:09:55,430 --> 02:09:52,480
get the material this critch angel the

3202
02:09:57,750 --> 02:09:55,440
first grifter magician or a true icon uh

3203
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:57,760
never been a fan of his actually and

3204
02:10:02,149 --> 02:09:59,440
there's a lot of stories about that

3205
02:10:03,350 --> 02:10:02,159
riley rage that i could tell you someday

3206
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:03,360
um

3207
02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:04,400
yeah

3208
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:06,800
i'd rather not though

3209
02:10:10,550 --> 02:10:09,040
what about bruce mcabee have you ever

3210
02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:10,560
ever interviewed also you're taking

3211
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:13,440
david platy's missing 4-1-1 phenomenon

3212
02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:14,560
well

3213
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:17,280
i'm on the fence about the missing 4-1-1

3214
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:18,560
first of all

3215
02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:20,320
it is very mysterious that so many

3216
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:22,719
people disappear in the national forests

3217
02:10:26,629 --> 02:10:24,880
equally mysterious that the united

3218
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,639
states officials don't keep track of

3219
02:10:31,430 --> 02:10:28,800
just how many people disappear

3220
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:31,440
in the national forests

3221
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:32,560
but

3222
02:10:36,950 --> 02:10:35,199
i'm an avid outdoors kind of guy you

3223
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:36,960
know i have a cabin i go hiking in the

3224
02:10:40,550 --> 02:10:38,320
woods i've

3225
02:10:42,629 --> 02:10:40,560
almost been attacked by a bear not long

3226
02:10:44,709 --> 02:10:42,639
ago

3227
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:44,719
and here's the thing when you're in

3228
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:47,840
these remote places you know bad things

3229
02:10:53,830 --> 02:10:50,960
can happen to you it's very easy to go

3230
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:53,840
missing you could fall down a cliff

3231
02:10:58,790 --> 02:10:56,159
you could uh you know be crossing a

3232
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:58,800
creek and get swept away by the current

3233
02:11:03,910 --> 02:11:01,199
never seen or heard from again you could

3234
02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:03,920
get attacked by wild animals including

3235
02:11:08,069 --> 02:11:06,800
bears mountain lions you know all kinds

3236
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:08,079
of things

3237
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:09,280
can happen

3238
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:11,520
so i think that may explain the missing

3239
02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:13,760
411 phenomenon but i'd like to believe

3240
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:19,910
prague magic y'all like a pie i like

3241
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:22,400
pumpkin pecan apple peach your mama's

3242
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:26,239
rhubarb kiwi lime peach yeah

3243
02:11:30,550 --> 02:11:28,480
way to change the subject

3244
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:30,560
rorschach says wilcock looks like a

3245
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:35,270
well

3246
02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:37,360
i'm not so sure that and for once i

3247
02:11:44,709 --> 02:11:39,520
agree with william pixley who says pies

3248
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:44,719
rock yes um but uh crack magic

3249
02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:47,520
i have not had any alcohol for like 85

3250
02:11:52,950 --> 02:11:50,960
days maybe 86 today and uh

3251
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:52,960
along with that i've been on a low carb

3252
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:56,239
diet and so i haven't had pie

3253
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:58,000
cakes candy

3254
02:12:02,470 --> 02:11:59,520
anything

3255
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:02,480
for 86 well no that's not true the first

3256
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:04,639
two weeks that i was abstaining from

3257
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:07,520
alcohol i just i i didn't i wasn't on a

3258
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:10,400
diet but two weeks into the 86 days i

3259
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:12,719
started on a low carb diet as well

3260
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:15,920
i'm down 12 pounds but i haven't had

3261
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:17,280
cookies

3262
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:20,480
cakes crackers noodles

3263
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:24,320
rice no carbs oh that i'm lying once i

3264
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:26,800
had three quarters of a small or frozen

3265
02:12:30,709 --> 02:12:27,840
pizza

3266
02:12:32,790 --> 02:12:30,719
at the cabin i cheated one time in 80s

3267
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:32,800
in you know i don't know like 70 days

3268
02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:34,800
here 75 days

3269
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:37,440
um so i would sure like some pie at this

3270
02:12:43,669 --> 02:12:41,119
point but uh i'm going to continue to

3271
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:43,679
uh try to stay on this low carb diet by

3272
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,199
the way

3273
02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:47,760
that is another whole

3274
02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:50,560
listen i need some help

3275
02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:54,079
i am confused and i can't

3276
02:12:59,109 --> 02:12:55,040
i can't

3277
02:13:01,750 --> 02:12:59,119
definitive information what is the

3278
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:01,760
healthiest diet that you should be on

3279
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:03,360
and i don't mean just for weight loss i

3280
02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:05,040
mean just in general what is the

3281
02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:06,480
healthiest diet

3282
02:13:14,229 --> 02:13:10,800
some people say it's it's uh you know

3283
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:14,239
it's keto diet which i'm on which is

3284
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:16,639
high in fat and protein and low very

3285
02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:19,119
very very low in carbs

3286
02:13:24,149 --> 02:13:21,360
other people say no no that's completely

3287
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:24,159
wrong according to the usda you should

3288
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:26,960
be on a low fat high carb diet

3289
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:28,719
and uh

3290
02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:30,560
many people say that that is the cause

3291
02:13:35,030 --> 02:13:32,960
of people being obese and and the

3292
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:35,040
epidemic that we have of heart disease

3293
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:38,079
and cancer and especially diabetes and

3294
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,119
by the way

3295
02:13:45,589 --> 02:13:41,199
in full disclosure my father died of

3296
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:45,599
very bad diabetes at 52. so

3297
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:47,520
i would very much like to have some sort

3298
02:13:51,830 --> 02:13:50,159
of a healthy

3299
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:51,840
a healthy diet

3300
02:13:56,470 --> 02:13:54,800
to avoid developing diabetes now i know

3301
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:56,480
being overweight is one of the risk

3302
02:14:02,390 --> 02:13:59,119
factors for developing diabetes so i've

3303
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,400
dropped 12 pounds in the past 86 days

3304
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:04,800
and i got a little bit more to go to be

3305
02:14:09,430 --> 02:14:07,360
to my pre pandemic weight and uh you

3306
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:09,440
know flat tummy get rid of that spare

3307
02:14:14,310 --> 02:14:13,040
tire feeling pretty good so far but

3308
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:14,320
go watch

3309
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:16,320
this is crazy we're gonna do a whole

3310
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:17,840
show on this i gotta talk to some

3311
02:14:21,270 --> 02:14:20,000
nutrition experts we're gonna do a whole

3312
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:21,280
show on

3313
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:25,199
diet in the united states because

3314
02:14:30,870 --> 02:14:27,520
i mean i hate to be conspiratorial but

3315
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:30,880
it does appear that the sugar industry

3316
02:14:37,189 --> 02:14:34,560
sort of paid off the scientists to say

3317
02:14:39,350 --> 02:14:37,199
oh it's it's it's not sugar

3318
02:14:41,669 --> 02:14:39,360
and carbs that cause these diseases it's

3319
02:14:42,550 --> 02:14:41,679
it's saturated fat

3320
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:42,560
but

3321
02:14:47,669 --> 02:14:45,760
you can watch go i guarantee that you'll

3322
02:14:49,589 --> 02:14:47,679
have the same experience as me go look

3323
02:14:52,229 --> 02:14:49,599
at like uh health and nutrition

3324
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:52,239
documentary on youtube

3325
02:14:59,189 --> 02:14:55,520
you will get vegan documentaries that

3326
02:15:01,910 --> 02:14:59,199
attack viciously attack people eating uh

3327
02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:01,920
high protein low carb you know meat

3328
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:03,119
eating

3329
02:15:06,870 --> 02:15:04,800
diets like keto

3330
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,880
and tell you that's completely unhealthy

3331
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:09,199
they're lying to you we've got the truth

3332
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:10,480
here you if you really want to be

3333
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:13,040
healthy go totally vegan

3334
02:15:17,189 --> 02:15:15,280
no animal products no meat

3335
02:15:19,109 --> 02:15:17,199
you know just fruits vegetables nuts

3336
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:19,119
legumes whatever

3337
02:15:22,149 --> 02:15:20,320
um

3338
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,159
and then you get go watch the

3339
02:15:26,390 --> 02:15:24,560
documentary of the keto people and they

3340
02:15:28,870 --> 02:15:26,400
tell you that those vegan people are

3341
02:15:31,589 --> 02:15:28,880
lying to you and you can't get

3342
02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:31,599
enough protein and you know

3343
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:33,840
and and and then you'll find

3344
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,679
videos that tell you that you've

3345
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,920
documentaries that say that the whole

3346
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:39,440
myth that the

3347
02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:41,520
the whole thing about fat being bad for

3348
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:44,400
you is is a myth and that's not true i

3349
02:15:48,790 --> 02:15:47,280
can't make heads or tails of it

3350
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:48,800
the only experience i ever had with

3351
02:15:55,030 --> 02:15:52,320
dieting was before i was on a low-key i

3352
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:55,040
was on a low-carb diet

3353
02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:57,360
to lose weight and it worked for me so

3354
02:16:01,830 --> 02:15:59,199
this time i said i'm just going to do

3355
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:01,840
that again because especially for a man

3356
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:04,079
you know men we like bacon we like

3357
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,920
steaks we like

3358
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:07,760
you know

3359
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:18,069
to me that that was the best option and

3360
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:21,360
i have to say that i haven't been hungry

3361
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:23,599
once in the 70 plus days i've been on

3362
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:25,440
this low-carb diet i haven't been hungry

3363
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:28,480
once i eat you know once a day usually

3364
02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:29,440
not even

3365
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,719
i don't even eat three meals but

3366
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:34,240
i

3367
02:16:42,309 --> 02:16:40,880
low carb are you supposed to eat

3368
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:42,319
low fat

3369
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,880
it depends on what documentary you watch

3370
02:16:49,910 --> 02:16:47,120
and the thing that drives me crazy is

3371
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:49,920
that there is very very highly educated

3372
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:52,479
experts in all those documentaries but

3373
02:16:56,709 --> 02:16:54,240
they all disagree

3374
02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:56,719
you there's no consensus and that's very

3375
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:59,120
frustrating i just want to know i just

3376
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:01,200
want an expert who's very well educated

3377
02:17:06,709 --> 02:17:03,840
in nutrition and biology or whatever

3378
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:06,719
medicine or you know to to break it down

3379
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:08,960
for me what am i supposed to do here

3380
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:10,800
because i'll do whatever

3381
02:17:15,190 --> 02:17:13,200
you know you're supposed to i want to

3382
02:17:16,549 --> 02:17:15,200
eat healthy

3383
02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:16,559
eating healthy

3384
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:18,880
is really a matter of who you ask for

3385
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:20,000
advice

3386
02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:21,120
you know

3387
02:17:23,669 --> 02:17:22,399
and uh

3388
02:17:25,910 --> 02:17:23,679
also

3389
02:17:28,549 --> 02:17:25,920
i've heard this from several people that

3390
02:17:30,309 --> 02:17:28,559
this low carb diet works for a time but

3391
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:30,319
then it sort of drops off and i think

3392
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:31,840
i'm at that drop-off point like the

3393
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:33,359
scale hasn't been moving for a little

3394
02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:34,399
while

3395
02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:37,359
so i may change things up and try uh

3396
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:39,359
eating vegan or

3397
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,000
eating low-fat with carbs but then i'm

3398
02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:44,399
like won't my system get all confused

3399
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,589
alien scientist is here shout out to

3400
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:51,439
alien scientists he says the us has

3401
02:17:55,429 --> 02:17:53,040
military bases all over the world our

3402
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:55,439
global military presence is

3403
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:58,719
unmatched i agree with you we spend more

3404
02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:01,679
on uh our military than the entire rest

3405
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:03,519
of the world combined

3406
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:04,800
right

3407
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:06,880
and uh alien scientist also says

3408
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:08,800
something that i agree with i agree with

3409
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:11,280
jeremy rise most of the time

3410
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:12,960
uh he says we absolutely have the

3411
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:15,439
ability to monitor crashes all over and

3412
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:18,080
swoop in for recovery if needed

3413
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:22,160
i believe that and and uh someday maybe

3414
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,080
me and jeremy will team up because we

3415
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:26,880
gotta talk about the battelle institute

3416
02:18:29,589 --> 02:18:28,399
you want to know where all this stuff is

3417
02:18:33,110 --> 02:18:29,599
hidden

3418
02:18:35,509 --> 02:18:33,120
all roads friends all roads for alien

3419
02:18:36,870 --> 02:18:35,519
crash possible crash fatigue retrieval

3420
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:36,880
material

3421
02:18:41,429 --> 02:18:39,120
no matter what it is to me

3422
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:41,439
lead to the patel institute start we're

3423
02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:44,719
going to start looking into that right

3424
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:47,280
betty double kick chick says

3425
02:18:51,349 --> 02:18:49,200
congratulations stephen i wish i could

3426
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:51,359
stop drinking well

3427
02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:53,359
thank you betty and uh i'm doing good

3428
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,479
but

3429
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:56,880
boy i could sure use a beer i can tell

3430
02:19:02,150 --> 02:18:59,679
you this i haven't decided i i haven't

3431
02:19:04,309 --> 02:19:02,160
decided if i'm gonna just quit drinking

3432
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:04,319
all together forever

3433
02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:06,479
most of me wants to go back

3434
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:09,359
or wants to be able to occasionally have

3435
02:19:13,349 --> 02:19:10,639
some beers

3436
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,359
but not certainly i will never i know

3437
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:15,519
this for a fact i will never return to

3438
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:17,439
drinking every day

3439
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:18,960
and if i do

3440
02:19:22,790 --> 02:19:21,040
start occasionally drinking and somehow

3441
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,800
end up drinking every day

3442
02:19:26,870 --> 02:19:24,639
then i'm done i'm just gonna quit again

3443
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:26,880
and be done

3444
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:29,200
i really do subscribe to the philosophy

3445
02:19:32,389 --> 02:19:30,880
of buddhism

3446
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:32,399
and the middle road

3447
02:19:35,669 --> 02:19:34,080
and the problem that i have with total

3448
02:19:37,589 --> 02:19:35,679
abstinence is that it's a form of

3449
02:19:38,549 --> 02:19:37,599
suffering you know

3450
02:19:40,389 --> 02:19:38,559
uh

3451
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:40,399
i'd like to have a glass of champagne on

3452
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:43,120
my anniversary with my wife which by the

3453
02:19:49,429 --> 02:19:46,880
way we just celebrated uh on saturday

3454
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:49,439
my wife and i have been together for

3455
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:51,680
uh 12 years

3456
02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:53,840
i'm sorry we've been married for 12

3457
02:19:58,150 --> 02:19:55,840
years on saturday but we were together

3458
02:19:59,190 --> 02:19:58,160
for 13 years before we were married for

3459
02:20:01,670 --> 02:19:59,200
uh

3460
02:20:03,349 --> 02:20:01,680
12 years now so we have been together

3461
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:03,359
for 25 years

3462
02:20:06,710 --> 02:20:04,479
you know it would have been nice to have

3463
02:20:08,710 --> 02:20:06,720
a glass of champagne or uh you know a

3464
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:08,720
six-pack and celebrate a special

3465
02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:09,840
occasion

3466
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:12,479
and uh i didn't like that i'm like no

3467
02:20:16,790 --> 02:20:14,640
can't do that um

3468
02:20:19,270 --> 02:20:16,800
maybe i'd like to you know drink a

3469
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,280
six-pack or even a 12-pack on a saturday

3470
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:21,200
occasionally but i was certainly

3471
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:23,120
drinking way too much drinking at 12. i

3472
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:25,120
was drinking like a 12-pack every day

3473
02:20:29,429 --> 02:20:27,600
sometimes a little bit more you know

3474
02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:29,439
and that's really not good for your body

3475
02:20:32,389 --> 02:20:30,960
it's not good for your mind it's not

3476
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:32,399
good for your health it's not good for

3477
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,479
your family

3478
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:36,080
it's not good when you have things that

3479
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:38,160
you got to do the next day

3480
02:20:42,550 --> 02:20:40,319
but i did the perfect time to abstain

3481
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:42,560
from alcohol because i i've abstained

3482
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:45,680
from alcohol for 86 days now i believe

3483
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:46,800
and

3484
02:20:50,710 --> 02:20:49,520
that covered me through the whole summer

3485
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:50,720
which

3486
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:52,880
is the time that i'm really responsible

3487
02:20:58,469 --> 02:20:55,680
for children all day long and uh it was

3488
02:21:00,710 --> 02:20:58,479
a good time to be sober because those

3489
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:00,720
kids will kill you when you're hungover

3490
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:03,600
right and my patience level is so low if

3491
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:06,080
i'm hungover

3492
02:21:09,190 --> 02:21:07,840
lady blah boss says they were moving the

3493
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:09,200
ark of the government when the plane

3494
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:10,800
crashed the nuclear power killed

3495
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:12,240
everyone oh my god i should be a

3496
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:13,760
filmmaker

3497
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:16,000
that sounds like a good story to me lady

3498
02:21:21,030 --> 02:21:17,760
blah blah

3499
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:21,040
by the way there is verified stories of

3500
02:21:24,469 --> 02:21:22,800
uh well not verified i don't know if

3501
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:24,479
they're true but there are stories of

3502
02:21:29,190 --> 02:21:26,880
ufo crash retrievals being put on a

3503
02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:29,200
plane and flown somewhere and the plane

3504
02:21:33,030 --> 02:21:31,200
crashed and they never reached their

3505
02:21:35,270 --> 02:21:33,040
destination with the so-called alien

3506
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:35,280
materials and all the alien materials

3507
02:21:39,510 --> 02:21:36,880
just vanish

3508
02:21:43,830 --> 02:21:41,190
richard crawley says i should be eating

3509
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:43,840
peanut butter i can and you know what i

3510
02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:45,359
like peanut butter but richard crowley

3511
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,520
what am i supposed to eat it on

3512
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:50,000
i can't have bread i can't have crackers

3513
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:52,840
when i'm supposed to put on celery that

3514
02:21:56,230 --> 02:21:54,640
sucks

3515
02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:56,240
there are some things that i miss you

3516
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:58,640
know what i miss richard crowley i miss

3517
02:22:03,030 --> 02:21:59,680
pizza

3518
02:22:05,030 --> 02:22:03,040
i miss rice i miss

3519
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:05,040
i don't really miss pasta too much but i

3520
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:05,920
miss

3521
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:08,319
cookies and crackers and things like

3522
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:10,479
that um

3523
02:22:17,429 --> 02:22:14,950
i guess you always want what you don't

3524
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:17,439
have though you know if i was eating low

3525
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:20,240
fat high carb i would be craving the

3526
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:23,520
fatty foods right now i'm eating high

3527
02:22:30,790 --> 02:22:28,000
fat low low carb and i'm craving carbs

3528
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:30,800
yeah today for dinner i had very

3529
02:22:35,830 --> 02:22:32,240
nutritious uh

3530
02:22:38,389 --> 02:22:35,840
sort of thing with uh what is it

3531
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:38,399
riced cauliflower this is the thing you

3532
02:22:41,990 --> 02:22:40,080
take cauliflower and you make it look

3533
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:42,000
like rice and sort of tastes like rice

3534
02:22:46,309 --> 02:22:44,399
it soaks up whatever you put on it

3535
02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:46,319
and uh and some ribs

3536
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:48,800
and uh it's funny to me that if i if

3537
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:50,399
this is the healthy way to eat it

3538
02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:52,720
doesn't sound it right it doesn't sound

3539
02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:54,720
like you should have like

3540
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,080
you know

3541
02:23:02,070 --> 02:22:58,960
a big rack of ribs for dinner

3542
02:23:02,830 --> 02:23:02,080
uh with cauliflower spinach and and uh

3543
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:02,840
you

3544
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:06,479
know it just doesn't sound healthy

3545
02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:08,800
james pepper she was about five or five

3546
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:10,240
and she was uh

3547
02:23:13,670 --> 02:23:12,240
not that big and four star

3548
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,680
service decided not to look for her

3549
02:23:17,510 --> 02:23:15,359
because it was labor day weekend is that

3550
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:17,520
that's one of the missing 4-1-1 cases

3551
02:23:25,429 --> 02:23:19,120
right

3552
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:25,439
alien scientist says just gotta stop

3553
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:27,600
drinking beer you know i've heard that

3554
02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:29,920
my my friend at the cabin map by the way

3555
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:32,560
for listening shout out to matt uh my

3556
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,680
friend at the cabin mat his brother quit

3557
02:23:39,990 --> 02:23:37,680
lost a ton of weight and he didn't quit

3558
02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:40,000
drinking he just switched from beer to

3559
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:41,680
jack and cokes

3560
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,359
which

3561
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,280
sounds pretty good right it's better

3562
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:47,840
than no alcohol i guess

3563
02:23:51,510 --> 02:23:49,840
uh yes and mark d truth seeker says no

3564
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:51,520
smoking here's what i'll tell you where

3565
02:23:56,710 --> 02:23:53,600
they at oh look i got them

3566
02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:56,720
i got i got vapes i got plenty of vapes

3567
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:58,080
and i'm trying to get used to them look

3568
02:24:01,750 --> 02:24:00,560
how manly this one is mark d true seeker

3569
02:24:04,950 --> 02:24:01,760
it's pink

3570
02:24:07,750 --> 02:24:04,960
this is a strawberry one and this is a

3571
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:07,760
strawberry milkshake one right but i

3572
02:24:16,630 --> 02:24:15,110
i don't know can't get used to them

3573
02:24:18,469 --> 02:24:16,640
i can

3574
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:18,479
it feels like i could vape on this thing

3575
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:20,160
for a half hour and i still want a

3576
02:24:23,910 --> 02:24:21,920
cigarette

3577
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:23,920
but i'm working on it

3578
02:24:27,590 --> 02:24:25,920
uh i am gonna do this

3579
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:27,600
in order to quit smoking i'm going to

3580
02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:30,479
stop smoking anywhere inside the house

3581
02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:31,840
so if i want to smoke i got to go

3582
02:24:35,429 --> 02:24:33,840
outside and it's going to get cold soon

3583
02:24:37,510 --> 02:24:35,439
i'm not going to want to do that but i

3584
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:37,520
am allowed to vape in the house

3585
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:38,960
so

3586
02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:39,760
uh

3587
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:41,680
that should really significantly reduce

3588
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:43,359
my uh

3589
02:24:46,389 --> 02:24:44,479
my

3590
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:46,399
smoking and you're right that's the next

3591
02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:48,240
thing but you know i think you gotta

3592
02:24:52,790 --> 02:24:50,640
kill one demon at a time and i've i've

3593
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:52,800
i've pretty much handled my alcohol

3594
02:24:55,990 --> 02:24:53,920
abuse

3595
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:56,000
so now i gotta handle this the tobacco

3596
02:25:00,309 --> 02:24:58,560
abuse and get tobacco out of my life

3597
02:25:01,750 --> 02:25:00,319
it really i don't and and you know some

3598
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:01,760
people have argued with me but i really

3599
02:25:06,230 --> 02:25:03,680
do think that vaping is much much better

3600
02:25:08,950 --> 02:25:06,240
for you and wow am i way far behind in

3601
02:25:14,710 --> 02:25:08,960
the live chat so let me uh

3602
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:16,790
jack and diet coke sugar kills you in

3603
02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:19,120
the hangover department

3604
02:25:24,870 --> 02:25:22,800
well diet coke uh causes diabetes so and

3605
02:25:26,870 --> 02:25:24,880
you know what everything will kill you

3606
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:26,880
everything will kill you

3607
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:28,880
watered down white wine it's called the

3608
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:35,670
mark d truth seeker says he's going to

3609
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:38,560
pm me yeah do that i use use all the

3610
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:43,190
yeah

3611
02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:45,280
cigarettes is 20 euros here i'm glad i

3612
02:25:48,630 --> 02:25:46,800
don't smoke so expensive where do you

3613
02:25:50,309 --> 02:25:48,640
live lady blah blah you look like a

3614
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:50,319
european chick

3615
02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:51,600
you've got that

3616
02:25:55,030 --> 02:25:53,040
european

3617
02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:55,040
like uh

3618
02:26:00,950 --> 02:25:57,200
it looks like you're european like a

3619
02:26:02,950 --> 02:26:00,960
french girl i'm guessing french right

3620
02:26:05,830 --> 02:26:02,960
and here they're like

3621
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:05,840
eight or nine dollars a pack so uh you

3622
02:26:09,270 --> 02:26:07,439
know

3623
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:09,280
i finally found a workout routine i like

3624
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,960
to do and now i work out several times a

3625
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:12,479
week it has helped a lot with my health

3626
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:14,960
and weight well email that to me because

3627
02:26:18,309 --> 02:26:16,240
uh the only

3628
02:26:19,910 --> 02:26:18,319
exercise that i get is giving my

3629
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:19,920
children back rides and chasing them

3630
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:22,800
around but i am trying to walk but every

3631
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:24,240
day i fail

3632
02:26:27,030 --> 02:26:25,200
because

3633
02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:27,040
i gotta walk for at least an hour to

3634
02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:28,800
burn any significant amount of calories

3635
02:26:32,870 --> 02:26:30,960
or whatever and i know i should do it

3636
02:26:33,590 --> 02:26:32,880
but every day i say i'm gonna do it and

3637
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:33,600
then

3638
02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:34,960
you know i lose track of time or

3639
02:26:39,349 --> 02:26:37,120
something maybe i'll take a hour walk

3640
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:39,359
tonight and uh but then that's weird

3641
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:40,800
because i'm just walking through a

3642
02:26:44,389 --> 02:26:43,040
suburban neighborhood late at night you

3643
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:44,399
know i don't know

3644
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:47,520
and there's a walking trail around here

3645
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:50,160
vaping saved on nicotine stage fingers

3646
02:26:54,070 --> 02:26:51,520
and teeth

3647
02:26:55,990 --> 02:26:54,080
smells nicer just not as satisfying i

3648
02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:56,000
agree with you betty double kick chick

3649
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:58,399
but i did vape for years before i was

3650
02:27:02,389 --> 02:27:00,560
stupid and went back to smoking

3651
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:02,399
i don't know why i did that and i wish

3652
02:27:07,190 --> 02:27:04,560
to god i didn't because i'm sure i was

3653
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:07,200
much healthier when i was uh

3654
02:27:10,950 --> 02:27:10,160
when i was vaping and not smoking

3655
02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:10,960
oh

3656
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,000
farm to

3657
02:27:16,550 --> 02:27:15,040
netherlands and i agree with uh

3658
02:27:19,030 --> 02:27:16,560
i agree with the alien scientists

3659
02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:19,040
netherlands are beautiful and so are the

3660
02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:21,040
women have you seen some of these

3661
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:23,280
netherland women

3662
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,399
they're hot

3663
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:26,399
alien scientists

3664
02:27:30,070 --> 02:27:28,080
yes uh

3665
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:30,080
so any comments or questions from me

3666
02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:32,479
please put them in the live chat

3667
02:27:39,349 --> 02:27:35,200
and by the way i am aware

3668
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:39,359
i am aware of a another idiot show host

3669
02:27:45,349 --> 02:27:42,399
who literally watches what we do here

3670
02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:45,359
and then he copies our show the next day

3671
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:47,280
because that's the kind of lazy slob he

3672
02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:50,080
is last night we did an ask me anything

3673
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:51,760
open panel show

3674
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:54,160
this show host has never done that to my

3675
02:27:59,670 --> 02:27:57,200
knowledge we did it yesterday he did it

3676
02:28:02,469 --> 02:27:59,680
today this is the same show host that's

3677
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:02,479
telling everybody that i'm lazy

3678
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,880
great you know some people if they had

3679
02:28:10,469 --> 02:28:06,960
an original idea it would die of

3680
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:10,479
loneliness i truly believe that

3681
02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:13,439
some people if they had an original idea

3682
02:28:17,830 --> 02:28:15,280
it would die of loneliness

3683
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:17,840
right i mean how lazy could you be

3684
02:28:21,670 --> 02:28:19,520
and i'm sure

3685
02:28:23,590 --> 02:28:21,680
that even when we were friendly and and

3686
02:28:25,670 --> 02:28:23,600
uh on speaking terms

3687
02:28:27,670 --> 02:28:25,680
i used to broadcast at seven o'clock and

3688
02:28:29,830 --> 02:28:27,680
he would broadcast at nine o'clock and

3689
02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:29,840
there was many many times

3690
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:30,800
where

3691
02:28:35,030 --> 02:28:33,040
i would do a show on a certain subject

3692
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:35,040
at seven o'clock and it really did

3693
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:36,880
appear to me people sent me clips and

3694
02:28:42,389 --> 02:28:39,040
everything that he copied

3695
02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:42,399
whatever i said about that subject down

3696
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:44,640
like took notes and then he

3697
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:47,040
repeated what i just did at nine o'clock

3698
02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:49,359
after i just did it at seven now we've

3699
02:28:53,750 --> 02:28:52,240
got the same clown you know i do and ask

3700
02:28:56,150 --> 02:28:53,760
me anything

3701
02:28:59,429 --> 02:28:56,160
open panel show

3702
02:29:03,030 --> 02:28:59,439
yesterday night he did that today

3703
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:03,040
but i'm the bad guy here

3704
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:05,520
that's just the way that it is friends

3705
02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:07,680
it's just the way that it is

3706
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:09,600
bernie konkin is here

3707
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:10,800
holding down

3708
02:29:14,150 --> 02:29:12,240
the

3709
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:14,160
facebook chat

3710
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:19,349
what is pragmatic talking about

3711
02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:23,760
swordplay like ping together in a urinal

3712
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:25,439
star galactic federation you make your

3713
02:29:30,150 --> 02:29:27,439
own vape juice i did for a time and i

3714
02:29:32,230 --> 02:29:30,160
still have a crap ton of it but here in

3715
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,240
the united states

3716
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,399
i haven't vaped in years it appears that

3717
02:29:37,990 --> 02:29:36,479
everybody's just smoking disposables now

3718
02:29:39,429 --> 02:29:38,000
and nobody

3719
02:29:42,389 --> 02:29:39,439
uses the juice

3720
02:29:44,950 --> 02:29:42,399
or the uh the refillable vapes are very

3721
02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:44,960
very expensive i haven't gotten one yet

3722
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:46,479
but i hear that you can refill the

3723
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:47,920
jewels and several other that are

3724
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:49,680
supposed to be where you have to buy the

3725
02:29:53,190 --> 02:29:51,200
cartridges

3726
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:53,200
i don't know i'm going to start

3727
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:56,640
gearing up the vape stuff and vaping

3728
02:30:02,870 --> 02:29:58,640
more than i smoke until i eventually

3729
02:30:05,110 --> 02:30:02,880
don't smoke or don't use tobacco at all

3730
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:05,120
marcus lamper says copying you is a form

3731
02:30:10,070 --> 02:30:07,120
of admiration no it's a form of

3732
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:10,080
desperation from a lazy slob who never

3733
02:30:18,070 --> 02:30:16,230
the same guy that to my knowledge never

3734
02:30:19,349 --> 02:30:18,080
wore a mask or did a character but as

3735
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:19,359
soon as he saw

3736
02:30:23,590 --> 02:30:21,040
people talking about how much they liked

3737
02:30:25,910 --> 02:30:23,600
me doing that suddenly he got a mask and

3738
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:25,920
was doing a character

3739
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:28,080
and he claims that he did that before me

3740
02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:30,000
but nobody has shown me video of him

3741
02:30:33,349 --> 02:30:31,600
doing it before me

3742
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:33,359
you know like i said

3743
02:30:37,990 --> 02:30:35,680
some people are just not original some

3744
02:30:41,349 --> 02:30:38,000
people are lazy slobs and they and they

3745
02:30:44,469 --> 02:30:41,359
don't you know it is laziness because

3746
02:30:47,190 --> 02:30:44,479
originality is not everybody has the

3747
02:30:50,870 --> 02:30:47,200
capability to come up with original

3748
02:30:52,309 --> 02:30:50,880
ideas but coming up with original ideas

3749
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:52,319
it takes

3750
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:56,880
think about it you got to develop ideas

3751
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:58,960
it's much easier to just see something

3752
02:31:03,990 --> 02:31:01,520
somebody else did and go oh yeah that's

3753
02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:04,000
a good idea i'll do what he did because

3754
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:07,680
it worked for him i'll copy him

3755
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:10,640
and by the way uh marcus lamper i could

3756
02:31:15,910 --> 02:31:13,359
if if that guy wasn't talking [\h__\h] about

3757
02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:15,920
me i could care less if he did that but

3758
02:31:20,309 --> 02:31:18,000
the fact that he's talking [\h__\h] about me

3759
02:31:22,790 --> 02:31:20,319
and ripping me off constantly

3760
02:31:25,030 --> 02:31:22,800
and by the way somebody sent me a

3761
02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:25,040
wonderful thing that maybe i'll share

3762
02:31:31,990 --> 02:31:29,280
that shows me covering a subject 9 p.m

3763
02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:32,000
one day the next day at seven o'clock

3764
02:31:38,389 --> 02:31:34,080
he's doing virtually the same story

3765
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:38,399
almost copying and pasting my titles

3766
02:31:42,950 --> 02:31:40,240
but the good news is that he does a

3767
02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:42,960
shitty job after me because

3768
02:31:46,790 --> 02:31:44,080
you know i guess he's going to be

3769
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:46,800
covering this james fox story tomorrow

3770
02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:48,479
he does a shitty job though all he does

3771
02:31:51,429 --> 02:31:50,080
is talk because he's too lazy to

3772
02:31:53,510 --> 02:31:51,439
actually develop

3773
02:31:55,670 --> 02:31:53,520
you know to research anything to have

3774
02:32:04,070 --> 02:31:55,680
things to share that takes time and

3775
02:32:08,150 --> 02:32:06,469
yeah disposables are a ripoff i i don't

3776
02:32:10,630 --> 02:32:08,160
know but there's something about these

3777
02:32:13,670 --> 02:32:10,640
disposables i never like disposables

3778
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:13,680
this one is delicious it's a flare i

3779
02:32:18,309 --> 02:32:16,000
think it's called strawberry milkshake

3780
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:18,319
and this is a flare

3781
02:32:22,790 --> 02:32:20,560
just strawberry and i do like that they

3782
02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:22,800
sort of color code them so like if you

3783
02:32:27,590 --> 02:32:25,840
get a mint one it's green you know

3784
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:27,600
if you get a watermelon one it looks

3785
02:32:32,630 --> 02:32:30,080
watermelon colored this one's strawberry

3786
02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:32,640
um you know an orange one is colored

3787
02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:34,640
orange so you kind of know

3788
02:32:40,230 --> 02:32:36,960
i'm gonna get a bag a little

3789
02:32:42,309 --> 02:32:40,240
man bag to keep this stuff all in and

3790
02:32:44,230 --> 02:32:42,319
i kind of like the color codes so that

3791
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:44,240
you kind of have an idea like oh that

3792
02:32:47,670 --> 02:32:46,000
one's the pineapple one it's yellow you

3793
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:47,680
know

3794
02:32:52,710 --> 02:32:49,680
no alien scientist we're talking about

3795
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:52,720
richie goofon the lazy slob

3796
02:32:58,309 --> 02:32:53,840
uh

3797
02:33:00,790 --> 02:32:58,319
jeremy he said i only have ever

3798
02:33:03,190 --> 02:33:00,800
researched five people and i just repeat

3799
02:33:03,990 --> 02:33:03,200
the same show every night that's what he

3800
02:33:06,950 --> 02:33:04,000
said

3801
02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:06,960
and then i'm lazy right and and i'm so

3802
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:09,439
lazy but he's got a copy from me

3803
02:33:14,469 --> 02:33:12,640
the slob right

3804
02:33:16,389 --> 02:33:14,479
patty wilhelm will you do a show on

3805
02:33:18,469 --> 02:33:16,399
robert salas yes

3806
02:33:19,990 --> 02:33:18,479
i've had him on my list to do a show on

3807
02:33:22,070 --> 02:33:20,000
for some time but it's extremely

3808
02:33:23,750 --> 02:33:22,080
difficult because he says so much wacky

3809
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:23,760
[\h__\h] like i don't even know where to

3810
02:33:27,830 --> 02:33:26,240
begin with him patty like what do i do

3811
02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:27,840
i think what i'm gonna do

3812
02:33:32,309 --> 02:33:30,319
is i'm gonna do something like clean my

3813
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:32,319
office and while i clean my office i'm

3814
02:33:37,030 --> 02:33:34,720
gonna put on him talking

3815
02:33:39,190 --> 02:33:37,040
and then i'm gonna take notes of time

3816
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:39,200
stamps of him saying stupid [\h__\h] and

3817
02:33:42,630 --> 02:33:40,960
we'll put together a video of him saying

3818
02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:42,640
crazy weird things and then we'll talk

3819
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:44,560
about it that's all i have come up with

3820
02:33:46,870 --> 02:33:45,760
right

3821
02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:46,880
and uh

3822
02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:49,200
alien scientist uncle fester uncle

3823
02:33:55,110 --> 02:33:52,160
fessler did though he called me a

3824
02:33:58,150 --> 02:33:55,120
convicted felon on his live show on a

3825
02:34:01,030 --> 02:33:58,160
live stream and uh with no evidence or

3826
02:34:03,830 --> 02:34:01,040
no proof he said that i i have a felony

3827
02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:03,840
conviction and i clipped it uh it's

3828
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:04,800
great

3829
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:09,439
slander somebody and

3830
02:34:14,469 --> 02:34:12,319
no proof no evidence you know listen if

3831
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:14,479
i was a convicted felon somebody

3832
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:16,640
you know found my mug shot and said

3833
02:34:20,070 --> 02:34:18,399
steve campion's a convicted felon here's

3834
02:34:22,790 --> 02:34:20,080
his mug shot here's his arrest records

3835
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:22,800
here's the court records hey i would go

3836
02:34:27,510 --> 02:34:24,160
i don't have a problem with that that's

3837
02:34:28,790 --> 02:34:27,520
factual but it's not factual in my case

3838
02:34:30,550 --> 02:34:28,800
i've said it before i'm going to say it

3839
02:34:33,030 --> 02:34:30,560
again i don't have any criminal

3840
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:33,040
convictions i'm certainly not a felon i

3841
02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:35,040
worked as a corporate credit manager and

3842
02:34:39,270 --> 02:34:37,120
access to tens of thousands of credit

3843
02:34:42,309 --> 02:34:39,280
card numbers they don't give convicted

3844
02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:42,319
felons jobs in that situation everything

3845
02:34:47,590 --> 02:34:44,960
everybody is credit checked everybody is

3846
02:34:49,510 --> 02:34:47,600
uh you know background checked you can't

3847
02:34:52,950 --> 02:34:49,520
have a criminal conviction and work in

3848
02:34:55,270 --> 02:34:52,960
accounting in a in a fortune 500 company

3849
02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:55,280
that would be stupid and foolish of them

3850
02:34:59,990 --> 02:34:57,520
but that doesn't stop idiots

3851
02:35:02,230 --> 02:35:00,000
from saying things you know

3852
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:02,240
but that's what it is uh

3853
02:35:11,270 --> 02:35:04,560
jeremy it's desperation right i'm one of

3854
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:14,469
oh a pretty good meme uh let me see if i

3855
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:16,640
can get that let me see if i can get

3856
02:35:23,270 --> 02:35:17,680
that

3857
02:35:26,550 --> 02:35:25,429
oh you retracted the message i don't

3858
02:35:28,309 --> 02:35:26,560
know

3859
02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:28,319
oh wait a minute let me see if i can see

3860
02:35:38,630 --> 02:35:36,469
thank you for the invite there was

3861
02:35:40,790 --> 02:35:38,640
something going on wacky with this pc on

3862
02:35:43,030 --> 02:35:40,800
b baker where i was every time i open

3863
02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:43,040
discord i go to somebody else's discord

3864
02:35:50,479 --> 02:35:55,990
which meme is it in the meme section

3865
02:36:00,870 --> 02:35:58,790
oh it's a copyrighted movie clip i can't

3866
02:36:02,070 --> 02:36:00,880
play it so uh

3867
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:02,080
yeah

3868
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:04,720
pardon me

3869
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:07,040
oh no

3870
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:08,960
i'm in somebody's wrong i'm in the wrong

3871
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:10,399
discord

3872
02:36:13,270 --> 02:36:11,840
all right we're gonna

3873
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:13,280
i'm gonna have to share that another

3874
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:16,000
time uh b baker i apologize for some

3875
02:36:22,710 --> 02:36:19,520
reason i'm stuck in uh another discord

3876
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:22,720
it's great

3877
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,920
and now that

3878
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:26,080
now i got to get out of it because it's

3879
02:36:33,670 --> 02:36:31,590
oh wait a minute no

3880
02:36:35,830 --> 02:36:33,680
i am in our discord but i can't share

3881
02:36:38,950 --> 02:36:35,840
any copyrighted videos we had enough of

3882
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:38,960
that yesterday be baker by the way uh

3883
02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:40,960
yesterday our video essentially got

3884
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,920
demonetized because people shared

3885
02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:45,520
people on the panel kept sharing

3886
02:36:49,590 --> 02:36:47,760
copyrighted material and so i guess

3887
02:36:52,790 --> 02:36:49,600
we're gonna make a new rule for our

3888
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:52,800
panel shows the first rule is please no

3889
02:36:57,510 --> 02:36:55,120
cursing everybody dropped f-bombs all

3890
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:57,520
through that thing and i get it

3891
02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,080
but you know i would hope that people at

3892
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:02,000
least don't drop the f-bombs i think

3893
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:03,600
that youtube doesn't care if you say

3894
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:05,280
some of the other seven words you can't

3895
02:37:10,710 --> 02:37:08,560
say on tv but the f-bomb you know only

3896
02:37:13,030 --> 02:37:10,720
once in a two-hour stream is that okay

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before they demonetize you the the

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second part is that we're going to make

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a rule that you cannot come here and

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share copyrighted material

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because um

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then we get then the video gets

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demonetized and that's problematic you

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know

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yeah we're going to get out of the

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discord there so any more comments or

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questions for me

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please put them in all capital letters

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mr blood vessel says dr jacobs wants to

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come on your show i'd interview him but

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what are you doing sniffing those

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panties i mean licking those whatever

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02:37:48,630 --> 02:37:47,760
he's doing with the panties i want to

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know

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why does he need alien abductee girl

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panties so badly right

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by the way i want to take a moment to

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love hate views

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anyway that you uh interact with us is

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02:42:26,870 --> 02:42:25,120
is supporting us amy collins is here

4042
02:42:29,830 --> 02:42:26,880
saying stephen tell me more about your

4043
02:42:33,269 --> 02:42:29,840
start to becoming a priest well

4044
02:42:35,429 --> 02:42:33,279
uh amy collins i was an altar boy and

4045
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:35,439
that's how they start the recruiting

4046
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:37,840
process they come to you and they say

4047
02:42:42,710 --> 02:42:40,319
uh you want to serve god don't you you

4048
02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:42,720
want to help people don't you

4049
02:42:47,590 --> 02:42:44,560
and uh then

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02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:47,600
they make you work for free for years i

4051
02:42:57,110 --> 02:42:54,389
second grade until 8th grade

4052
02:43:00,230 --> 02:42:57,120
i was an altar boy

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02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:00,240
and i had to do so much stuff amy

4054
02:43:05,750 --> 02:43:03,200
collins that now when i look back on it

4055
02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:05,760
i consider it a form of slave labor and

4056
02:43:08,630 --> 02:43:06,840
abuse

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02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:08,640
because um

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02:43:14,389 --> 02:43:11,359
they would do things like make me serve

4059
02:43:16,309 --> 02:43:14,399
seven or excuse me six a.m mass

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02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:16,319
and i had to be at school at eight

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02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:18,080
o'clock so

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uh

4063
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:21,279
what i used to have to do is wake up at

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02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:22,960
five o'clock in the morning

4065
02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:25,120
and go to church and you know you go to

4066
02:43:29,830 --> 02:43:27,600
the rectory and and you help the priest

4067
02:43:32,469 --> 02:43:29,840
get the the church sometimes they would

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02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:32,479
make us clean the church before

4069
02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:34,000
um

4070
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:36,080
this sounds it probably sounds worse

4071
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:38,880
than it is but anyway i would go there

4072
02:43:42,710 --> 02:43:41,040
at 5 30 in the morning there'd be a six

4073
02:43:44,150 --> 02:43:42,720
o'clock mass so they sometimes they

4074
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:44,160
would find something for me to do for a

4075
02:43:48,389 --> 02:43:46,800
half hour here uh you know

4076
02:43:52,870 --> 02:43:48,399
uh

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02:43:56,469 --> 02:43:52,880
with the candles and bring the money

4078
02:43:58,790 --> 02:43:56,479
over here and uh you know

4079
02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:58,800
you know sweep the front steps before

4080
02:44:02,870 --> 02:44:00,240
people get here

4081
02:44:05,590 --> 02:44:02,880
clean the pews they used to have this

4082
02:44:08,469 --> 02:44:05,600
pine oil that stunk and we would have to

4083
02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:08,479
wipe down all the the wooden pews

4084
02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:09,920
with i don't know if it was oil or

4085
02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:13,359
anyway so i was an altar boy for uh you

4086
02:44:17,349 --> 02:44:16,160
know i don't know like six years

4087
02:44:19,590 --> 02:44:17,359
and uh

4088
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:19,600
then i went to high school and they

4089
02:44:24,550 --> 02:44:22,000
started recruiting me and sending me to

4090
02:44:27,349 --> 02:44:24,560
the seminary and i swear they keep notes

4091
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:27,359
on the boys that are in this altar boy

4092
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:29,200
you know program and things

4093
02:44:33,349 --> 02:44:30,960
they knew when i as soon as i got to

4094
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:33,359
high school a priest approached me

4095
02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:36,319
uh who said uh oh i i knew some of the

4096
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:38,399
priests that you served mass with

4097
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:40,240
and they told me that you're very godly

4098
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:41,920
or something i don't know they kind of

4099
02:44:46,150 --> 02:44:44,160
love bombed you you know and then they

4100
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:46,160
said we could really use help in our

4101
02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:47,200
chapel

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02:44:51,510 --> 02:44:49,439
and so i went from altar boy to i think

4103
02:44:53,190 --> 02:44:51,520
they call it uh

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02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:53,200
an acolyte

4105
02:44:58,389 --> 02:44:56,000
so the sort of this graduation process

4106
02:45:00,950 --> 02:44:58,399
and again they love bomb you they oh

4107
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,960
you're doing such great things god god

4108
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:03,120
really i'm sure god appreciates that

4109
02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:05,680
you're helping us with our chapel here

4110
02:45:11,190 --> 02:45:07,760
and i became sort of the caretaker for

4111
02:45:13,429 --> 02:45:11,200
the chapel at my high school which was

4112
02:45:15,269 --> 02:45:13,439
terrible place to go to school because

4113
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:15,279
it was an all-boys catholic high school

4114
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:17,040
where you had to wear a suit every day a

4115
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:18,240
suit and tie

4116
02:45:23,910 --> 02:45:20,399
it was terrible no girls

4117
02:45:25,110 --> 02:45:23,920
and anyway i became the uh accolade

4118
02:45:26,630 --> 02:45:25,120
and and

4119
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:26,640
i cleaned the

4120
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:28,800
chapel it's really a form of slave labor

4121
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:30,560
they get the kids to

4122
02:45:33,990 --> 02:45:32,479
do all these things and like i said they

4123
02:45:34,870 --> 02:45:34,000
love bomb yeah

4124
02:45:37,349 --> 02:45:34,880
and

4125
02:45:40,230 --> 02:45:37,359
then they started sending me after a

4126
02:45:41,510 --> 02:45:40,240
certain period of being an acolyte

4127
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:41,520
they

4128
02:45:47,670 --> 02:45:45,760
you know i think that god is really

4129
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:47,680
working through you i remember this

4130
02:45:52,469 --> 02:45:50,319
conversation and it was a brother uh

4131
02:45:53,590 --> 02:45:52,479
which is similar to a priest but anyway

4132
02:45:55,429 --> 02:45:53,600
uh

4133
02:45:57,110 --> 02:45:55,439
the brother comes to me and he sits me

4134
02:45:59,590 --> 02:45:57,120
down he says i need to talk to you it's

4135
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:59,600
very important and he says uh

4136
02:46:03,429 --> 02:46:01,359
you know god has been working through

4137
02:46:04,870 --> 02:46:03,439
you you've been an altar boy now you're

4138
02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:04,880
an acolyte

4139
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:06,640
and we think that it's very important

4140
02:46:12,070 --> 02:46:10,640
that you uh go in and take the next step

4141
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:12,080
and i'm like what do you mean next step

4142
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:13,359
and they're like

4143
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:15,840
to the next step towards becoming a

4144
02:46:19,830 --> 02:46:18,080
priest and i'm like i was kind of like

4145
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:19,840
surprised because just because i was an

4146
02:46:24,150 --> 02:46:22,399
altar boy or an acolyte or whatever

4147
02:46:26,230 --> 02:46:24,160
didn't mean i wanted to be a priest you

4148
02:46:29,030 --> 02:46:26,240
have to remember too at this point i'm

4149
02:46:31,190 --> 02:46:29,040
like 15 or 16 years old

4150
02:46:34,309 --> 02:46:31,200
those hormones raging the thought of

4151
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:34,319
like no women ever

4152
02:46:39,590 --> 02:46:36,319
but anyway then they send you to the

4153
02:46:40,870 --> 02:46:39,600
seminary for like these uh brainwashing

4154
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:40,880
sessions

4155
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:42,880
and i went the first couple of times and

4156
02:46:47,590 --> 02:46:45,520
eventually i just refused to go anymore

4157
02:46:48,790 --> 02:46:47,600
and i remember

4158
02:46:51,429 --> 02:46:48,800
that

4159
02:46:53,750 --> 02:46:51,439
they would not accept no for an answer i

4160
02:46:55,830 --> 02:46:53,760
kept saying no no i want to have a wife

4161
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:55,840
and a family someday i can't do that as

4162
02:46:59,110 --> 02:46:56,960
a priest

4163
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:59,120
and uh and i remember even having a

4164
02:47:02,870 --> 02:47:00,640
really honest conversation with the

4165
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:02,880
priest and i asked one of the priests i

4166
02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:03,680
said

4167
02:47:09,190 --> 02:47:06,160
what kind of a kind and just god would

4168
02:47:11,510 --> 02:47:09,200
begrudge me the love of a wife and and

4169
02:47:13,990 --> 02:47:11,520
family wife and children i don't

4170
02:47:16,150 --> 02:47:14,000
understand the celibacy thing i don't

4171
02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:16,160
think that's natural i don't think

4172
02:47:20,469 --> 02:47:18,880
that's healthy for a man especially a 16

4173
02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:20,479
year old man like

4174
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:23,040
boy whatever

4175
02:47:26,870 --> 02:47:25,120
and then eventually they start sending

4176
02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:26,880
you for weekends where they're

4177
02:47:32,309 --> 02:47:29,600
brainwashing you all weekend long

4178
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:32,319
so and they really kind of pile it on

4179
02:47:36,870 --> 02:47:34,560
and you get sort of they take up all of

4180
02:47:38,790 --> 02:47:36,880
your time so you don't have time to

4181
02:47:40,630 --> 02:47:38,800
chase girls you know

4182
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:40,640
and then some of the priests do start

4183
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:42,720
brainwashing you about i had a priest

4184
02:47:46,870 --> 02:47:44,479
sit me down and tell me all about the

4185
02:47:49,670 --> 02:47:46,880
evils of women i'm not kidding you like

4186
02:47:51,190 --> 02:47:49,680
he told me that women are manipulative

4187
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:51,200
women can make you do things you

4188
02:47:55,269 --> 02:47:53,439
wouldn't ordinarily do which all of this

4189
02:47:57,590 --> 02:47:55,279
may be true but it felt very

4190
02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:57,600
manipulative to try to like

4191
02:48:02,950 --> 02:48:00,640
turn me away from women or or like

4192
02:48:04,469 --> 02:48:02,960
almost like sour grapes like those women

4193
02:48:06,230 --> 02:48:04,479
aren't all they're cracked up to be it's

4194
02:48:09,190 --> 02:48:06,240
not it's not what you think they're not

4195
02:48:12,710 --> 02:48:09,200
that great you know a godly life is much

4196
02:48:15,110 --> 02:48:12,720
better it's more rewarding to just serve

4197
02:48:17,190 --> 02:48:15,120
the church to serve god

4198
02:48:20,309 --> 02:48:17,200
and eventually i had enough of all the

4199
02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:20,319
brainwashing and i quit all of it and uh

4200
02:48:24,870 --> 02:48:22,319
since i couldn't

4201
02:48:27,110 --> 02:48:24,880
since they wouldn't let up i i literally

4202
02:48:29,429 --> 02:48:27,120
got myself thrown out of catholic school

4203
02:48:31,830 --> 02:48:29,439
and i did that by just

4204
02:48:32,870 --> 02:48:31,840
i stopped going i just stopped going to

4205
02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:32,880
school

4206
02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:35,359
and uh that didn't go over well with my

4207
02:48:40,550 --> 02:48:38,080
very catholic very uh

4208
02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:40,560
strict father like he found out that i

4209
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:41,840
had just been

4210
02:48:45,910 --> 02:48:43,680
and that's another whole funny story my

4211
02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:45,920
brother had a hippie van that was a

4212
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:48,479
camper in our yard that he was working

4213
02:48:52,150 --> 02:48:50,560
on so i just would wake up and act like

4214
02:48:53,990 --> 02:48:52,160
i was going to school and i would go

4215
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:54,000
into the van and listen to howard stern

4216
02:48:57,510 --> 02:48:55,840
all morning and then i would go home

4217
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:57,520
like i went to school

4218
02:49:01,670 --> 02:48:59,680
and this was all related to them trying

4219
02:49:03,110 --> 02:49:01,680
to brainwash me and force me into

4220
02:49:05,429 --> 02:49:03,120
becoming a priest

4221
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:05,439
and i just didn't want to do it i just

4222
02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:07,200
did not want to do it so there's your

4223
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:09,840
story i hope that's sufficient

4224
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:12,720
that's all i got for you amy collins uh

4225
02:49:16,550 --> 02:49:15,359
but i will tell you that i almost did

4226
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:16,560
later

4227
02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:19,439
uh i looked into becoming a christian

4228
02:49:23,429 --> 02:49:20,640
minister

4229
02:49:24,790 --> 02:49:23,439
i did because i figured well if i could

4230
02:49:27,269 --> 02:49:24,800
become a

4231
02:49:28,790 --> 02:49:27,279
like um like a methodist minister you

4232
02:49:31,429 --> 02:49:28,800
can get married and you can have a

4233
02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:31,439
family and children and still serve god

4234
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:34,960
and uh quite honestly i may do that

4235
02:49:40,070 --> 02:49:37,920
at some point in my life still i i've

4236
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:40,080
always felt like maybe i had i was

4237
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:41,200
called

4238
02:49:45,429 --> 02:49:44,240
to be a priest or a minister but i never

4239
02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:45,439
uh

4240
02:49:51,190 --> 02:49:49,120
you know life gets in the way um

4241
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:51,200
and and also a big part of me thinks

4242
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:53,359
that you can serve god in your own way

4243
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:55,040
you don't need a collar to do it you

4244
02:49:59,990 --> 02:49:56,560
don't need to

4245
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,000
be so official in serving god because

4246
02:50:04,630 --> 02:50:02,800
you're like for example i have a friend

4247
02:50:07,750 --> 02:50:04,640
amy collins who goes

4248
02:50:11,030 --> 02:50:07,760
to kensington in philadelphia every day

4249
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,040
and he feeds the heroin addicts

4250
02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:13,760
you know heroin addicts don't eat they

4251
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,760
all their money goes to drugs

4252
02:50:19,269 --> 02:50:17,279
so if they have ten dollars they're

4253
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:19,279
buying heroin and they just won't eat

4254
02:50:22,389 --> 02:50:20,720
for three days at a time because they're

4255
02:50:24,790 --> 02:50:22,399
buying heroin instead of something to

4256
02:50:27,750 --> 02:50:24,800
eat and he goes and he feeds those

4257
02:50:29,670 --> 02:50:27,760
people every day he tries his best to

4258
02:50:32,790 --> 02:50:29,680
get them to uh

4259
02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:32,800
to go to get help to some of the places

4260
02:50:37,590 --> 02:50:34,880
that are available the detoxes the

4261
02:50:39,190 --> 02:50:37,600
programs he tries to get him an n a or

4262
02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:39,200
whatever

4263
02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:42,080
isn't he serving god and his fellow man

4264
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:43,520
i think so

4265
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:44,479
so

4266
02:50:49,030 --> 02:50:46,720
there you have it

4267
02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:49,040
crypto alchemist said i switched to both

4268
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:51,520
thumbs up to try and reach 100 to get

4269
02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:57,349
not going to happen by the way these are

4270
02:51:01,269 --> 02:50:59,920
new shades that were a gift from my wife

4271
02:51:02,230 --> 02:51:01,279
uh

4272
02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:02,240
which

4273
02:51:06,469 --> 02:51:04,720
was for my anniversary so there you go

4274
02:51:08,630 --> 02:51:06,479
25 years together

4275
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:08,640
if you're not aware if you are able to

4276
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:11,520
survive with the same woman for 25 years

4277
02:51:18,389 --> 02:51:15,920
you get a you get a pair of sunglasses

4278
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:18,399
no we're not real big old big gifts so

4279
02:51:21,429 --> 02:51:20,080
i thought it was thoughtful she said you

4280
02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:21,439
always need them you're always losing

4281
02:51:28,630 --> 02:51:27,030
betty double kick chick says i love

4282
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:28,640
stories like this when young people turn

4283
02:51:31,030 --> 02:51:29,840
around and question the religion they're

4284
02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:31,040
raised in

4285
02:51:34,389 --> 02:51:32,720
yeah i always had a lot of questions

4286
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:34,399
about catholicism some of it doesn't

4287
02:51:38,550 --> 02:51:36,800
make sense and and the priests don't do

4288
02:51:39,590 --> 02:51:38,560
a good job explaining things like for

4289
02:51:41,590 --> 02:51:39,600
example

4290
02:51:44,230 --> 02:51:41,600
okay we're only supposed to have one god

4291
02:51:45,910 --> 02:51:44,240
but we have a we don't have one god we

4292
02:51:48,150 --> 02:51:45,920
have a trinity we have god the father

4293
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:48,160
god the son and the holy spirit

4294
02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:50,640
explain to me how this is one god they

4295
02:51:55,670 --> 02:51:52,800
can't they can't explain to you how

4296
02:51:57,750 --> 02:51:55,680
that's one god or hell a god can be his

4297
02:51:59,349 --> 02:51:57,760
own father and his own son none of that

4298
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:59,359
made any sense to me

4299
02:52:01,750 --> 02:52:00,479
i finally

4300
02:52:04,309 --> 02:52:01,760
just

4301
02:52:06,469 --> 02:52:04,319
i made up in my own mind that it was

4302
02:52:08,550 --> 02:52:06,479
just different forms of god

4303
02:52:10,710 --> 02:52:08,560
you know a man at different times in his

4304
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:10,720
life can be different things a man can

4305
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:14,080
be a son when he's younger

4306
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:16,399
later he can be a father

4307
02:52:20,870 --> 02:52:18,560
you know eventually he passes on and

4308
02:52:22,309 --> 02:52:20,880
becomes a great spirit so that's how i

4309
02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:22,319
sort of justified

4310
02:52:25,750 --> 02:52:24,240
the trinity in my head but the priests

4311
02:52:27,269 --> 02:52:25,760
don't like you asking questions or

4312
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:27,279
questioning things and they get pissed

4313
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:28,399
off and

4314
02:52:31,510 --> 02:52:30,160
you know amy collins says thank you

4315
02:52:34,230 --> 02:52:31,520
stephen yeah i'm sorry that's my

4316
02:52:36,150 --> 02:52:34,240
long-winded story

4317
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:36,160
but boy can i tell you some other

4318
02:52:41,510 --> 02:52:39,120
stories amy collins like for example

4319
02:52:43,269 --> 02:52:41,520
in the when i was an altar boy

4320
02:52:45,429 --> 02:52:43,279
every time somebody hears i was an altar

4321
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:45,439
boy they go gee did you get butt raped

4322
02:52:49,349 --> 02:52:48,399
by the priests and no i did not

4323
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:49,359
but

4324
02:52:54,389 --> 02:52:50,800
uh

4325
02:52:56,870 --> 02:52:54,399
in my parish where i served mass

4326
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:56,880
you can google this priest

4327
02:53:01,429 --> 02:52:58,560
one of the priests that i was an altar

4328
02:53:03,190 --> 02:53:01,439
boy for later got arrested uh for

4329
02:53:05,910 --> 02:53:03,200
molesting children

4330
02:53:07,510 --> 02:53:05,920
and uh i found out when he got arrested

4331
02:53:09,190 --> 02:53:07,520
i didn't i didn't even know this but i

4332
02:53:10,469 --> 02:53:09,200
found out from

4333
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:10,479
family

4334
02:53:15,030 --> 02:53:12,640
that when i was an altar boy there was

4335
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:15,040
rumors about that guy and my father went

4336
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:16,800
and gripped them up

4337
02:53:20,790 --> 02:53:18,160
and said

4338
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:20,800
uh my you know my son steven right he's

4339
02:53:24,230 --> 02:53:22,319
going to be serving mass with you and

4340
02:53:25,750 --> 02:53:24,240
the guy said yeah and my father grabbed

4341
02:53:27,910 --> 02:53:25,760
him by the throat or something and threw

4342
02:53:28,950 --> 02:53:27,920
him against the wall and he said you

4343
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:28,960
never

4344
02:53:33,750 --> 02:53:31,279
put a finger on my son

4345
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:33,760
and i never knew that happened until the

4346
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,640
years later when the guy got arrested i

4347
02:53:40,870 --> 02:53:38,960
and certainly i heard uh

4348
02:53:42,790 --> 02:53:40,880
some rumors and that guy gave you the

4349
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:42,800
creep factor like you knew he was a

4350
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:45,200
creeper and so you just kind of avoided

4351
02:53:49,429 --> 02:53:46,720
i just did whatever i was supposed to do

4352
02:53:51,990 --> 02:53:49,439
for him and just kept my distance right

4353
02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:52,000
but other children

4354
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:55,040
including altar boys that i knew i i

4355
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:57,120
learned later were not so lucky and they

4356
02:54:02,550 --> 02:54:00,399
became victims but thanks to uh

4357
02:54:05,030 --> 02:54:02,560
thanks to my family you know they

4358
02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:05,040
protected me and isn't it strange that

4359
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:07,120
like a father would just go and threaten

4360
02:54:11,190 --> 02:54:08,880
the priest instead of somebody calling

4361
02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:11,200
the cops and saying that guy's

4362
02:54:15,429 --> 02:54:13,040
been you know

4363
02:54:17,030 --> 02:54:15,439
kitty touching nobody nobody reported

4364
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,040
him to the police nobody did anything

4365
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:19,439
they let him still be a priest they just

4366
02:54:23,990 --> 02:54:21,520
some of the fathers were smart enough to

4367
02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:24,000
go warning to keep away from their sons

4368
02:54:27,990 --> 02:54:25,760
and by the way he liked little boys not

4369
02:54:29,349 --> 02:54:28,000
little girls

4370
02:54:33,429 --> 02:54:29,359
and uh

4371
02:54:36,070 --> 02:54:33,439
and also the priest who later refused to

4372
02:54:38,150 --> 02:54:36,080
bury my father for a time until i paid

4373
02:54:40,630 --> 02:54:38,160
some money i just had to pay some money

4374
02:54:42,550 --> 02:54:40,640
he later was on that list of catholic

4375
02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:42,560
priests that were pedophiles

4376
02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:44,640
and we found out that long after my

4377
02:54:49,030 --> 02:54:46,880
father's funeral

4378
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:49,040
patty wilhelm says we serve others where

4379
02:54:53,830 --> 02:54:50,080
we can

4380
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:53,840
yeah i agree absolutely

4381
02:54:57,030 --> 02:54:55,439
crypto alchemist says i've been cleaning

4382
02:54:58,550 --> 02:54:57,040
off prescription opiates for three years

4383
02:55:00,790 --> 02:54:58,560
now after a decade of prescribed

4384
02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:00,800
addiction yes i was i don't believe that

4385
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:03,359
i was ever addicted to them uh crypto

4386
02:55:07,269 --> 02:55:05,279
alchemists but they

4387
02:55:10,469 --> 02:55:07,279
when i had my brain aneurysm they kept

4388
02:55:11,990 --> 02:55:10,479
giving me percocet and uh or for a while

4389
02:55:13,190 --> 02:55:12,000
it was oxycontin and then it was

4390
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:13,200
percocet

4391
02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:16,000
and both of them made me feel terrible i

4392
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:18,080
didn't like him at all so i would just

4393
02:55:22,790 --> 02:55:19,920
not take him and i would live with the

4394
02:55:25,510 --> 02:55:22,800
pain but eventually uh we find out that

4395
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:25,520
cannabis is a much better medication for

4396
02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:27,200
nerve damage and that's what i got from

4397
02:55:30,790 --> 02:55:29,120
my brain aneurysm than any form of

4398
02:55:32,710 --> 02:55:30,800
opiate could be

4399
02:55:34,790 --> 02:55:32,720
so uh

4400
02:55:39,190 --> 02:55:34,800
alien scientists all priests give me a

4401
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:40,309
some of them

4402
02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:42,960
i had a lot of years i think all right

4403
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:43,760
ten

4404
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:47,760
and uh

4405
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:49,600
gee like two or three of that was all

4406
02:55:53,590 --> 02:55:51,680
boys catholic school with all the

4407
02:55:56,150 --> 02:55:53,600
teachers being priests or brothers and

4408
02:55:58,150 --> 02:55:56,160
most of them male the only female we had

4409
02:56:00,790 --> 02:55:58,160
in our entire school was a 70 year old

4410
02:56:03,110 --> 02:56:00,800
nun that was the librarian

4411
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:03,120
yeah pretty pathetic high school life i

4412
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:04,960
had but uh

4413
02:56:11,990 --> 02:56:08,720
no i have jeremy known a couple of

4414
02:56:15,429 --> 02:56:12,000
really good priests really good people

4415
02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:18,710
rapey that guy's rapey

4416
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:19,840
yeah

4417
02:56:24,309 --> 02:56:22,080
they are a lot more creepy though a lot

4418
02:56:26,790 --> 02:56:24,319
of them really are creepy jeremy but i

4419
02:56:29,110 --> 02:56:26,800
i'm telling you i had a few

4420
02:56:31,750 --> 02:56:29,120
jeremy did you i'm sure you did did you

4421
02:56:33,590 --> 02:56:31,760
have a science a science teacher that

4422
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:33,600
really turned you on to science because

4423
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:36,160
i did and he was a priest

4424
02:56:39,750 --> 02:56:38,640
and he was a great guy and he inspired

4425
02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:39,760
me to learn

4426
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:41,920
everything i could about science and

4427
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:44,800
chemistry and how the world works and uh

4428
02:56:48,389 --> 02:56:47,279
he showed me how to build

4429
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:48,399
some uh

4430
02:56:52,630 --> 02:56:49,920
rocket motors and he taught me the

4431
02:56:54,630 --> 02:56:52,640
chemistry behind rocket candy i'm sure

4432
02:56:57,349 --> 02:56:54,640
you know what that is jeremy rocket

4433
02:57:00,630 --> 02:56:57,359
candy you know what is it uh potassium

4434
02:57:01,990 --> 02:57:00,640
nitrate iron oxide and something else

4435
02:57:03,190 --> 02:57:02,000
and sugar

4436
02:57:04,790 --> 02:57:03,200
um

4437
02:57:07,190 --> 02:57:04,800
he taught me that and a bunch of other

4438
02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:07,200
stuff he's chemistry teacher i love that

4439
02:57:12,389 --> 02:57:10,160
priest and uh you know

4440
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:12,399
uh so some of them were good guys some

4441
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:14,160
of them are good people but i will tell

4442
02:57:17,349 --> 02:57:16,000
you this i think all of the priests

4443
02:57:18,950 --> 02:57:17,359
tended to be

4444
02:57:21,190 --> 02:57:18,960
a little strange

4445
02:57:23,110 --> 02:57:21,200
right i think being that

4446
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:23,120
that celibate life and living with a

4447
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:26,160
bunch of dudes in a dorm your whole life

4448
02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:28,560
and plus they're all very sheltered you

4449
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:30,960
know jeremy like the church buys them

4450
02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:33,520
their cars the church gives them money

4451
02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:35,279
the church takes care of their health

4452
02:57:39,590 --> 02:57:36,880
care the church takes care of their

4453
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:39,600
dentistry needs the church takes care of

4454
02:57:43,590 --> 02:57:41,120
anything they need

4455
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:43,600
so they live this very weird sheltered

4456
02:57:47,830 --> 02:57:45,760
life and they and they're a bit out of

4457
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:47,840
touch with like the common man that has

4458
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:50,080
to go to work every day because many of

4459
02:57:54,790 --> 02:57:52,000
them they work on sunday and that's it

4460
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:54,800
they just serve mass for a few hours and

4461
02:57:58,630 --> 02:57:56,720
they're done for the week now some of

4462
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:58,640
them do funerals and weddings and things

4463
02:58:02,710 --> 02:58:00,720
during the week but they don't have a 40

4464
02:58:05,190 --> 02:58:02,720
hour work week jeremy they work like 10

4465
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:05,200
hours a week they don't understand you

4466
02:58:09,830 --> 02:58:06,720
know they're they're way out of touch

4467
02:58:12,469 --> 02:58:09,840
that's been my experience right

4468
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:12,479
stale zemste says my weakness is lsd and

4469
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:14,479
shroom love them don't do them too often

4470
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:16,240
but i never turned shrooms down yeah i

4471
02:58:20,630 --> 02:58:17,600
don't think it's a good idea to do

4472
02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:20,640
hallucinogenic powerful hallucinogenic

4473
02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:23,600
drugs too often style zemste i think it

4474
02:58:28,950 --> 02:58:26,720
could be extremely dangerous actually

4475
02:58:32,790 --> 02:58:28,960
right

4476
02:58:34,230 --> 02:58:32,800
yes i agree with you lady blah blah and

4477
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:34,240
i'm not going to share it because

4478
02:58:38,710 --> 02:58:36,560
honestly it's too depressing for me and

4479
02:58:41,510 --> 02:58:38,720
anybody i share this with but you can

4480
02:58:43,110 --> 02:58:41,520
look up kensington philadelphia go put

4481
02:58:44,710 --> 02:58:43,120
that in the youtube search bar that's

4482
02:58:47,910 --> 02:58:44,720
where i grew up

4483
02:58:50,309 --> 02:58:47,920
and boy did the opioid

4484
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,319
hit where i grew up where i grew up it

4485
02:58:55,349 --> 02:58:52,479
used to be a nice place to live

4486
02:58:56,950 --> 02:58:55,359
and then opioids came and it is the

4487
02:58:59,269 --> 02:58:56,960
walking dead down there there's all

4488
02:59:02,309 --> 02:58:59,279
these people just nodding off standing

4489
02:59:04,870 --> 02:59:02,319
in the middle of the sidewalk

4490
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:04,880
on drugs there's people stealing

4491
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:07,200
everything that's not nailed down in

4492
02:59:10,309 --> 02:59:09,040
fact that's why i moved out of the city

4493
02:59:12,550 --> 02:59:10,319
because they were going to put a safe

4494
02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:12,560
injection site a mile from my house and

4495
02:59:17,030 --> 02:59:14,560
there was already doper stealing things

4496
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:17,040
off my porch and things like that

4497
02:59:20,070 --> 02:59:18,560
so

4498
02:59:22,870 --> 02:59:20,080
forsaken truth says the bible is

4499
02:59:24,630 --> 02:59:22,880
mistranslated in stories taken from epic

4500
02:59:26,790 --> 02:59:24,640
ancient texts like the epic of guilt

4501
02:59:29,349 --> 02:59:26,800
dimesh yeah it is funny how many of the

4502
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:29,359
stories repeat you know they're just

4503
02:59:33,670 --> 02:59:31,120
repeated stories

4504
02:59:37,269 --> 02:59:33,680
from previous stories you know names

4505
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:37,279
changed and things change right

4506
02:59:41,429 --> 02:59:39,760
alien scientist bob lazar gives him the

4507
02:59:43,990 --> 02:59:41,439
ready vibes

4508
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:44,000
i don't know about that uh he just looks

4509
02:59:49,830 --> 02:59:46,720
like a nerd to me like he looks harmless

4510
02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:51,670
this is burn's eye mind's eye science

4511
02:59:56,309 --> 02:59:53,359
guy yeah i know

4512
02:59:57,910 --> 02:59:56,319
one of my suspended channels hopefully

4513
03:00:01,429 --> 02:59:57,920
while i'm glad you got your channel back

4514
03:00:06,309 --> 03:00:03,750
stylezemsty says we have an opioid issue

4515
03:00:08,870 --> 03:00:06,319
here as well it's terrible where i grew

4516
03:00:10,870 --> 03:00:08,880
up it is terrible the whole city but

4517
03:00:12,950 --> 03:00:10,880
mostly kensington kensington in

4518
03:00:14,070 --> 03:00:12,960
philadelphia is the east coast capital

4519
03:00:15,590 --> 03:00:14,080
of heroin

4520
03:00:17,990 --> 03:00:15,600
in the whole country

4521
03:00:19,670 --> 03:00:18,000
like and then and the weird thing is is

4522
03:00:21,990 --> 03:00:19,680
that people in other parts of the

4523
03:00:24,309 --> 03:00:22,000
country know that somehow and they all

4524
03:00:28,150 --> 03:00:24,319
migrate there and then they live on the

4525
03:00:30,309 --> 03:00:28,160
train tracks intense and [\h__\h] because

4526
03:00:31,990 --> 03:00:30,319
they kind of find out or hear that the

4527
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:32,000
cops don't do anything there are

4528
03:00:35,030 --> 03:00:34,000
literally stalzemski

4529
03:00:37,030 --> 03:00:35,040
people

4530
03:00:40,309 --> 03:00:37,040
shooting needles in their arms right in

4531
03:00:43,269 --> 03:00:40,319
the street right like it's no big deal

4532
03:00:45,830 --> 03:00:43,279
it is terrible you know and i i pray for

4533
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:45,840
those people every day because i some of

4534
03:00:49,190 --> 03:00:47,760
the friends that i grew up with have

4535
03:00:51,670 --> 03:00:49,200
died from that

4536
03:00:54,150 --> 03:00:51,680
got involved in it and just never

4537
03:00:56,710 --> 03:00:54,160
never cleaned up you know

4538
03:00:58,550 --> 03:00:56,720
it's it's all party until you die from a

4539
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:58,560
fentanyl overdose there's a big problem

4540
03:01:05,110 --> 03:01:00,080
with fentanyl there

4541
03:01:09,030 --> 03:01:07,190
well for once i might agree with you

4542
03:01:11,269 --> 03:01:09,040
that these things are evil if that's

4543
03:01:15,590 --> 03:01:11,279
what you're saying picks big pharma

4544
03:01:20,389 --> 03:01:18,070
betty double kick chick

4545
03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:20,399
oh that's where i grew up betty double

4546
03:01:25,349 --> 03:01:22,240
kick chick actually i always tell people

4547
03:01:28,710 --> 03:01:25,359
this if you ever saw the movie rocky

4548
03:01:31,030 --> 03:01:28,720
i grew up right where mick's gym and the

4549
03:01:32,790 --> 03:01:31,040
pet store where rocky's wife adrian

4550
03:01:35,190 --> 03:01:32,800
worked i grew up right around the corner

4551
03:01:36,710 --> 03:01:35,200
from there um

4552
03:01:38,790 --> 03:01:36,720
that's where i grew up and by the way

4553
03:01:41,349 --> 03:01:38,800
that's kensington that's where the

4554
03:01:44,309 --> 03:01:41,359
opioid epidemic is right now

4555
03:01:46,469 --> 03:01:44,319
uh we did a show betty double kick chick

4556
03:01:48,550 --> 03:01:46,479
on the opioid epidemic if you go to our

4557
03:01:51,030 --> 03:01:48,560
search bar here on our channel just

4558
03:01:53,269 --> 03:01:51,040
search opioid and you'll see that we

4559
03:01:55,750 --> 03:01:53,279
have done an interview with journalist

4560
03:01:58,469 --> 03:01:55,760
art levine who also covered

4561
03:01:59,990 --> 03:01:58,479
uh the opioid epidemic amy collins is

4562
03:02:01,429 --> 03:02:00,000
here and says i could see bob lazar

4563
03:02:03,190 --> 03:02:01,439
fighting with someone over the last

4564
03:02:04,150 --> 03:02:03,200
transformer or battery pack on the

4565
03:02:06,309 --> 03:02:04,160
shelves

4566
03:02:07,670 --> 03:02:06,319
radio shack and calling the other person

4567
03:02:08,630 --> 03:02:07,680
a dumb oaf

4568
03:02:10,630 --> 03:02:08,640
could be

4569
03:02:12,230 --> 03:02:10,640
china is purposefully allowing fentanyl

4570
03:02:14,870 --> 03:02:12,240
to be manufactured there and sent here

4571
03:02:16,550 --> 03:02:14,880
to destroy us yeah they don't care

4572
03:02:18,230 --> 03:02:16,560
rhode island is the substance abuse

4573
03:02:20,070 --> 03:02:18,240
capital of the u.s central falls the

4574
03:02:21,110 --> 03:02:20,080
tail next door was nicknamed cocaine

4575
03:02:23,269 --> 03:02:21,120
city

4576
03:02:25,429 --> 03:02:23,279
yeah i did not know that but that kind

4577
03:02:28,150 --> 03:02:25,439
of wouldn't make sense right

4578
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:28,160
well friends i just realized time flies

4579
03:02:31,990 --> 03:02:30,080
when you're having fun and you guys know

4580
03:02:34,150 --> 03:02:32,000
this there's no place i would rather be

4581
03:02:35,670 --> 03:02:34,160
but here but there's several other

4582
03:02:38,550 --> 03:02:35,680
stories that i'm working on one of them

4583
03:02:40,230 --> 03:02:38,560
is a big story and that means big

4584
03:02:42,309 --> 03:02:40,240
time and big

4585
03:02:43,429 --> 03:02:42,319
investment of energy and passion and

4586
03:02:45,030 --> 03:02:43,439
research

4587
03:02:47,190 --> 03:02:45,040
and i've got a few more hours it's

4588
03:02:49,269 --> 03:02:47,200
midnight here i got a few more hours

4589
03:02:50,550 --> 03:02:49,279
before i really conk out

4590
03:02:52,389 --> 03:02:50,560
so

4591
03:02:54,550 --> 03:02:52,399
what i'm going to do is

4592
03:02:56,150 --> 03:02:54,560
i am going to bounce on out of here and

4593
03:02:59,510 --> 03:02:56,160
work on those other stories because i

4594
03:03:01,590 --> 03:02:59,520
want to get them ready for you also uh

4595
03:03:02,790 --> 03:03:01,600
i want to let the patreon supporters and

4596
03:03:04,550 --> 03:03:02,800
channel members know that i'll be

4597
03:03:06,230 --> 03:03:04,560
uploading this month's journal as well

4598
03:03:07,349 --> 03:03:06,240
as last month's journal that i missed

4599
03:03:10,230 --> 03:03:07,359
somehow

4600
03:03:11,670 --> 03:03:10,240
and a few uh of our production videos

4601
03:03:12,630 --> 03:03:11,680
that you're going to get a sneak peek

4602
03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:12,640
for

4603
03:03:15,110 --> 03:03:13,600
from

4604
03:03:16,950 --> 03:03:15,120
of whatever

4605
03:03:18,710 --> 03:03:16,960
uh and they'll be uploaded publicly

4606
03:03:20,070 --> 03:03:18,720
sometime this weekend also want to

4607
03:03:21,750 --> 03:03:20,080
mention that we're going to be doing a

4608
03:03:23,030 --> 03:03:21,760
midnight hour show

4609
03:03:25,750 --> 03:03:23,040
premiere

4610
03:03:27,510 --> 03:03:25,760
of uh the last we have three more

4611
03:03:29,510 --> 03:03:27,520
episodes of the midnight hour show for

4612
03:03:31,429 --> 03:03:29,520
those unaware before truth seekers was

4613
03:03:34,070 --> 03:03:31,439
my show my show was called the midnight

4614
03:03:36,389 --> 03:03:34,080
hour it was an audio podcast only we

4615
03:03:38,070 --> 03:03:36,399
have cut out all the commercials and all

4616
03:03:41,110 --> 03:03:38,080
that stuff there's some great interviews

4617
03:03:43,190 --> 03:03:41,120
there so there's three interviews left

4618
03:03:46,150 --> 03:03:43,200
one is with ryan gable of the secret

4619
03:03:47,990 --> 03:03:46,160
teachings one is with cliff high the web

4620
03:03:49,910 --> 03:03:48,000
bot creator

4621
03:03:52,950 --> 03:03:49,920
who's a very controversial figure you

4622
03:03:55,190 --> 03:03:52,960
may be aware of and the last interview

4623
03:03:57,349 --> 03:03:55,200
of my run with the midnight hour show

4624
03:03:59,750 --> 03:03:57,359
which was on the fringe fm every

4625
03:04:00,710 --> 03:03:59,760
saturday night at midnight by the way

4626
03:04:03,030 --> 03:04:00,720
um

4627
03:04:06,230 --> 03:04:03,040
the last interview that i did was with

4628
03:04:09,349 --> 03:04:06,240
john mcafee before his death obviously

4629
03:04:10,469 --> 03:04:09,359
uh so interesting

4630
03:04:12,309 --> 03:04:10,479
we're gonna be

4631
03:04:13,670 --> 03:04:12,319
putting those on our channel here to

4632
03:04:16,150 --> 03:04:13,680
preserve them

4633
03:04:17,990 --> 03:04:16,160
uh with the rest of my content here so

4634
03:04:20,550 --> 03:04:18,000
everybody can go to one channel here at

4635
03:04:23,110 --> 03:04:20,560
truthseekers and you can

4636
03:04:24,870 --> 03:04:23,120
check out all my old show content as

4637
03:04:28,710 --> 03:04:24,880
well as the truth seekers content all in

4638
03:04:33,349 --> 03:04:28,720
one place here so we'll be doing that uh

4639
03:04:36,389 --> 03:04:33,359
lots of news stories coming your way

4640
03:04:38,790 --> 03:04:36,399
and one second here and let me see if we

4641
03:04:42,150 --> 03:04:38,800
can't find

4642
03:04:44,070 --> 03:04:42,160
yes i found what i am looking for

4643
03:04:46,710 --> 03:04:44,080
so we've got new production videos

4644
03:04:48,790 --> 03:04:46,720
coming to the patreon and to the channel

4645
03:04:52,230 --> 03:04:48,800
members section they'll be debuting this

4646
03:04:54,469 --> 03:04:52,240
weekend sometime we've got uh

4647
03:04:56,630 --> 03:04:54,479
midnight hour show episodes from our

4648
03:04:59,910 --> 03:04:56,640
archives to be uploaded here and we've

4649
03:05:02,150 --> 03:04:59,920
got some incredible new stories that we

4650
03:05:03,269 --> 03:05:02,160
are working on for you

4651
03:05:05,190 --> 03:05:03,279
uh

4652
03:05:07,429 --> 03:05:05,200
what can i say friends there's no place

4653
03:05:08,230 --> 03:05:07,439
that i would rather be than here with

4654
03:05:10,309 --> 03:05:08,240
you

4655
03:05:11,269 --> 03:05:10,319
but i do got to go work on some other

4656
03:05:13,990 --> 03:05:11,279
things

4657
03:05:16,710 --> 03:05:14,000
we will be returning tomorrow night at 9

4658
03:05:18,070 --> 03:05:16,720
00 p.m eastern standard time

4659
03:05:20,230 --> 03:05:18,080
i want to thank each and every one of

4660
03:05:21,910 --> 03:05:20,240
you for joining us oh look at that

4661
03:05:24,389 --> 03:05:21,920
betty double kick chick with a kind and

4662
03:05:25,990 --> 03:05:24,399
generous five dollars australian thanks

4663
03:05:28,230 --> 03:05:26,000
for a great show and taking the time to

4664
03:05:29,429 --> 03:05:28,240
talk to us cheers from perth australia

4665
03:05:31,670 --> 03:05:29,439
like i said

4666
03:05:33,429 --> 03:05:31,680
betty double kick chick

4667
03:05:35,190 --> 03:05:33,439
no place that i would rather be by the

4668
03:05:37,349 --> 03:05:35,200
way do you do martial arts or something

4669
03:05:38,870 --> 03:05:37,359
is that why it's double kick chick

4670
03:05:41,349 --> 03:05:38,880
uh thank you for kindness your

4671
03:05:43,269 --> 03:05:41,359
generosity and your support is much much

4672
03:05:45,590 --> 03:05:43,279
appreciated and we want to thank all of

4673
03:05:47,670 --> 03:05:45,600
our kind and generous benefactors

4674
03:05:50,710 --> 03:05:47,680
uh all of which

4675
03:05:54,950 --> 03:05:50,720
have helped us helped us to praise the

4676
03:06:00,070 --> 03:05:57,830
raise you guys for the gas praise cash

4677
03:06:02,070 --> 03:06:00,080
thank you for your kindness thank you

4678
03:06:04,570 --> 03:06:02,080
for your generosity

4679
03:06:12,630 --> 03:06:04,580
crazy cash crazy cash raise the cash

4680
03:06:17,910 --> 03:06:15,510
so thank you betty double kick chick uh

4681
03:06:19,590 --> 03:06:17,920
from my little clown to you and by the

4682
03:06:22,070 --> 03:06:19,600
way i also have new bumpers of him we

4683
03:06:25,030 --> 03:06:22,080
gotta upload them i finished them uh

4684
03:06:26,870 --> 03:06:25,040
he's he's gonna be a space cadet next

4685
03:06:28,710 --> 03:06:26,880
he's very interested in the show and he

4686
03:06:31,110 --> 03:06:28,720
definitely wants to help out and we want

4687
03:06:34,550 --> 03:06:31,120
to encourage him and i'm also teaching

4688
03:06:35,830 --> 03:06:34,560
him the value of money uh by paying him

4689
03:06:37,510 --> 03:06:35,840
uh so

4690
03:06:39,510 --> 03:06:37,520
unlike some people that have a bunch of

4691
03:06:41,030 --> 03:06:39,520
people working for free we pay people to

4692
03:06:43,670 --> 03:06:41,040
contribute to the show as much as

4693
03:06:44,790 --> 03:06:43,680
possible even children i want people to

4694
03:06:45,750 --> 03:06:44,800
start

4695
03:06:49,910 --> 03:06:45,760
you know

4696
03:06:52,469 --> 03:06:49,920
labor laws and stuff

4697
03:06:55,110 --> 03:06:52,479
anything to make me look bad right

4698
03:06:56,790 --> 03:06:55,120
but that's the story for another time

4699
03:06:58,389 --> 03:06:56,800
so we want to thank all of you for

4700
03:07:00,790 --> 03:06:58,399
joining us we want to thank our kind and

4701
03:07:03,110 --> 03:07:00,800
generous benefactors our paid

4702
03:07:06,150 --> 03:07:03,120
patreon supporters our channel members

4703
03:07:08,950 --> 03:07:06,160
our paypal pledgers our cash app senders

4704
03:07:11,349 --> 03:07:08,960
uh we love all of you and we appreciate

4705
03:07:13,349 --> 03:07:11,359
it so that's all i got for you tonight

4706
03:07:15,269 --> 03:07:13,359
friends we'll be back tomorrow night 9

4707
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p.m eastern standard time i hope you'll

4708
03:07:19,590 --> 03:07:17,359
be here with us until next time friends

4709
03:07:24,020 --> 03:07:19,600
my name is stephen campion good night

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03:07:24,030 --> 03:07:29,269
[Music]

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03:07:29,279 --> 03:07:33,990
so

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[Music]

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[Applause]